Grouse/Partridge Shot Size

Thanks for all the great insights.

I think I’m going to have to pattern my shot gun. Which means I have to figure out how to do that (yay YouTube).

I’m still working on understanding range. Took a shot yesterday with the .410 and my hunting companion insists it was too far... I missed, so he was probably right, but I have no sense of how far is too far. I suspect patterning at different ranges will help.
 
Thanks for all the great insights.

I think I’m going to have to pattern my shot gun. Which means I have to figure out how to do that (yay YouTube).

I’m still working on understanding range. Took a shot yesterday with the .410 and my hunting companion insists it was too far... I missed, so he was probably right, but I have no sense of how far is too far. I suspect patterning at different ranges will help.

Staple a large piece of paper to a board, put an aiming dot on the center of it. Move back to the distance you want to pattern, aim at the dot and pull the trigger. It is pretty simple, you are just trying to see what you ammo, choke and gun combo do at that range, you only take 1 shot per piece of paper.
 
Thanks for all the great insights.

I think I’m going to have to pattern my shot gun. Which means I have to figure out how to do that (yay YouTube).

I’m still working on understanding range. Took a shot yesterday with the .410 and my hunting companion insists it was too far... I missed, so he was probably right, but I have no sense of how far is too far. I suspect patterning at different ranges will help.

In my honest opinion about 30 yards with full choke is a very long poke with a 410 and the load that works best for you. Take away another five yards on movers because your pattern changes when you pull the trigger and you swing through a follow through lead. A 20 gauge gives me another eight yards effective range on small game. But that's just me and especially because all my 20 gauges tend to have a more open choke.
 
Ive always used 7.5 shot with a full choke in my 410.
A big part is learning how to "aim" for a head shot. You aim high and and hit the head and neck with a few peripheral pellets. This works best with 7.5 because there are more pellets in the load.
 
12 gauge 3" #2 or #4 kent fasteel 2.0 with a carlson cremator long range choke. BB's at times if I'm coming back from a honker hunt. All very effective.
 
I have always used #4 in my .410. I hate biting shot and #4s end up against bone if they don't shoot through. As an aside, I am 5 for 7 on woodcock with my .410 using #4s.
 
Larger shot in a .410 tends to string and have sketchy patterns especially in 3 " IMO anyways.If you can hit e'm in the head size don't much matter.
 
Location and species and hunting method will make the answer to this question vary. The question doesn't specify, but most answers here assume that the original poster is asking about ruffed grouse in the eastern half of the country.There is a significant difference if you are hunting forest grouse vs prairie grouse, and wing shooting vs ground/perching shots. And "partridge" in the West means real partridge, Grey partridge (Huns) or Chuckar. If all you are doing is shooting ruffed grouse in the "pre-flight condition" it really doesn't matter. As posted by several here previously, half an ounce of anything between #8 to #4 will kill a sitting ruffed grouse, from shotguns choked anywhere from full choke to cylinder.
If hunting wild flushing late season sharptails, a load of 1-1/8 oz of #5 or perhaps 1-1/4 oz of 4 shot out of full choke would be appropriate. The same birds in early season may be more efficiently taken with an ounce of #6 and improved cylinder. Forest grouse like Ruffed, and Spruce grouse shot on the flush over a pointing dog will be a good candidate for anything from 3/4 oz of 7-1/2 to 1-1/8 oz of 6's and cylinder to nothing more than modified choke. Grouse shot on the flush by a hunter without a dog may require a touch more choke and one size bigger shot. Blue grouse flushed from high trees on the West coast may require more reach, similar to sharptails.
I personally hunt with a pointing dog, shoot only flushed birds, and mostly use a 20 ga or 16 ga and an ounce of #6 out of IC/Mod for most of my hunting. Works well for ruffed, spruce, sharptail, and huns in most locations in the early to mid season.
 
Location and species and hunting method will make the answer to this question vary. The question doesn't specify, but most answers here assume that the original poster is asking about ruffed grouse in the eastern half of the country.There is a significant difference if you are hunting forest grouse vs prairie grouse, and wing shooting vs ground/perching shots. And "partridge" in the West means real partridge, Grey partridge (Huns) or Chuckar. If all you are doing is shooting ruffed grouse in the "pre-flight condition" it really doesn't matter. As posted by several here previously, half an ounce of anything between #8 to #4 will kill a sitting ruffed grouse, from shotguns choked anywhere from full choke to cylinder.
If hunting wild flushing late season sharptails, a load of 1-1/8 oz of #5 or perhaps 1-1/4 oz of 4 shot out of full choke would be appropriate. The same birds in early season may be more efficiently taken with an ounce of #6 and improved cylinder. Forest grouse like Ruffed, and Spruce grouse shot on the flush over a pointing dog will be a good candidate for anything from 3/4 oz of 7-1/2 to 1-1/8 oz of 6's and cylinder to nothing more than modified choke. Grouse shot on the flush by a hunter without a dog may require a touch more choke and one size bigger shot. Blue grouse flushed from high trees on the West coast may require more reach, similar to sharptails.
I personally hunt with a pointing dog, shoot only flushed birds, and mostly use a 20 ga or 16 ga and an ounce of #6 out of IC/Mod for most of my hunting. Works well for ruffed, spruce, sharptail, and huns in most locations in the early to mid season.

It would probably be better if you read the original post.

410, Ontario, Sault Ste Marie, therefore Ruffed and spruce grouse in the bush, probably some ground swatting and we don't feel it is unethical to do that as we hike 5-10 km between seeing birds and if they flush you lose sight of them in 4ft.
 
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