ratherbefishin said:
the 311 in 20 guage seem to be scarce as hen's teeth-there;s the odd 12 around but I have never even seen a 20
I have both a 12 and a 20. I haven't hunted with the 20 much yet, as I got it just last year and I have too many various shotguns to give some of them much field time.
However, the Fox B in 12 ga was one of my first SXS's and to this day holds the record for the worst POS I ever bought. It looks great! Case colours are bright and vibrant, the wood is plain, but it's real walnut at least and it's the original finish in mint condition. Shoots like a dream, too. Seems like I can't miss with that gun as long as I can keep the damn thing functioning. It's a love - hate relationship. It looks great and shoots great. On the other hand, it's always breaking and it swings like a club.
Still, there's no guarantee that the 20 will be as problematic. I don't believe that even as I say it, because IMO the B's issues stem mostly from poor design. The 20 can't be that much of an improvement.
The next question becomes "What can you get that's better in the same price range." Precious little, I'm afraid. I guess it depends on whether you'd rather kick in a little more and get a better 20, or buy a 12 ga.
Lots of decent 12 ga's out there. You can even get one of Tradex's "experienced" spanish 12's for dirt cheap, if you really just want a beater for out in the field.
Do you have your heart set on a 311, or what are your actual criteria?