Growing OAL concerns.

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Okay so the the debate over OAL is open to interpretation and seems to have quite a large gray area, restricted or not if it comes down the tube that it's re-classified as restricted does that mean any one with one at that time gets GRANDFATHERED in to the restricted class?


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emu1104 said:
any one with one at that time gets GRANDFATHERED in to the restricted class?
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Who the hell knows? This is government we're talking about.

In any case, I have a registration certificate that says I have a Dominion Arms shotgun with a barrel length of less than 470mm that is 'non-restricted'. I hope I can keep it and if they do grandfather, at least I won't miss the boat like I did on the 12(6).

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Haha, you are talking about grandfathering a firearm that is most certainly not proven to be legal. This firearm was not sold with the pistol stock installed, that is the bottom line!
 
KaiBosh said:
Haha, you are talking about grandfathering a firearm that is most certainly not proven to be legal. This firearm was not sold with the pistol stock installed, that is the bottom line!
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It was sold with it seems to be a HUGE GREY area here in Canada as to what is restricted and non-restricted no one seems to know what the law is and what we do know is that it is interpreted in many different ways no ONE answer.
 
Well, like someone said in another thread, when I take it to the range or gravel pit, it will certainly be wearing the full length but stock. I don't want to risk confiscation (or worse).
 
If a firearm is reclassified from non-restricted to restricted a PAL with restricted endorsement would be needed to be in possession. It would be necessary to obtain a RPAL to be in possession. A personal licence isn't going to be automatically upgraded.
There is no provision in existing law for creating additional classes of grandfathered firearms.
 
Woah, woah... There is no such thing as a firearm that turns from a non-restricted into a restricted. It is one or the other. Modifying a non-restricted firearm would make it prohibited, period. The only way around this is if a firearm is legally changed in status by a gunsmith.
 
wolfman said:
The restricted course was really informative to take and comes in REAL handy from time to time.



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your kidding right?
lol it was almost the exact same as the non restricted... same test... lol it was pretty funny. only different was the course i took... i got to handle some nice handguns, both magnum revolvers to glocks and cz's... i liked it. :D
 
PowerStroke said:
your kidding right?
lol it was almost the exact same as the non restricted... same test... lol it was pretty funny. only different was the course i took... i got to handle some nice handguns, both magnum revolvers to glocks and cz's... i liked it. :D
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The PAL and RPAL test was LITERALY the easiest test i've ever taken. I was DONE the first written test before they even showed the first movie :p

I had actually read the books before i went in, and aced both tests.
 
its kinda scary, because i know a "friend" who went in and the guy would take your money, and guarentee you to pass, he would help you with questions and such....its fine for some, but really scary for the idiots who have absolutley no common sense
 
KaiBosh said:
Woah, woah... There is no such thing as a firearm that turns from a non-restricted into a restricted. It is one or the other. Modifying a non-restricted firearm would make it prohibited, period. The only way around this is if a firearm is legally changed in status by a gunsmith.
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The gov't. can reclassify non-restricted firearms as restricted. This has nothing to do with any physical modifications to the firearm.
It can also prohibit firearms, and there is no existing mechanism for grandfathering.
 
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You Can have guns re classed both ways, cx4storm berretta restricted to non and Norinco M-14S they chop em up to make the Socom rifles which to my knowledge makes them restricted. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


KaiBosh said:
Woah, woah... There is no such thing as a firearm that turns from a non-restricted into a restricted. It is one or the other. Modifying a non-restricted firearm would make it prohibited, period. The only way around this is if a firearm is legally changed in status by a gunsmith.
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tangospike99 said:
You Can have guns re classed both ways, cx4storm berretta restricted to non and Norinco M-14S they chop em up to make the Socom rifles which to my knowledge makes them restricted. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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If you cut the Norinco M-14 barrel to 18.5 inches, it stays in the non-restricted class. Cutting the barrel between 18.5" and 18" makes it restricted. Cutting it below this mark makes the gun falls into the prohibited class:runaway:

If you put an aftermarket (no barrel cutting) "less than 18.5 inches barrel ", it would make the Norc M-14 an evil evil restricted :runaway:

The Cx4 is restricted because it is semi-automatic and have a "less than 18.5 inches barrel" (same as the Norc m-14). If you swap the 16" barrel with a 18.5" or more , it is now non-restricted .
 
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... and... like I said, only a gunsmith can do this. You, yourself, at home, cannot legally change the classification of a firearm.
 
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