GRRRRRRRRR, had to dump six pounds of IMR4320

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Appx 35 years ago, I picked up case containing four eight pound cans of IMR4320 at a closing out sale from a Kelowna store.

I really like IMR4320 in cartridges like 303Brit and 7.65x53Arg.

I used up the pound I had pulled from the container a couple of weeks ago to load for the Gew98 chambered for 303Brit that recently came into my possession.

I noticed that I'm getting inconsistent velocities with the next pound out of the jug, using the same primers etc.

This is often a sign something has gone awry with the propellant and I wanted to eliminate that cause before playing with a bunch of other things.

I opened the cannister and after a cautious sniff, it was pretty obvious the powder was deteriorating beyond use.

Poured some out into a stainless bown and the demon rust was definitely present. When a light was shone inside the tin, the inside walls were no longer shiney and covered with rust spots that were definitely eating away the container.

I checked the container simply because some powders, especially surplus military grade types will often have a reddish or yellowish hue, due to the coating which comes from the particular batch of graphite or whatever they're using to stop the clumping.

Oh well, the powder was cheap back when I bought it. $80 for 32 pounds.

I will miss having predictable IMR4320 in my cache of powders to choose from. I have other powders with very similar burn rates and characteristics, so I won't be looking for more.

The modern IMR4320 would likely be very different in burn rate from that 35+ year matching lot.

At todays prices that powder would cost around $500 by the time it got home. It's going to be missed.
 
They have discontinued IMR 4320

Yeah but there still seems to be some on local gun shop shelves but I'm not going to buy any. I have several other powders with similar burn rates that will do the job well, but don't fill the case, such as W748, which is just slightly slower.
 
Appx 35 years ago, I picked up case containing four eight pound cans of IMR4320 at a closing out sale from a Kelowna store...

Oh well, the powder was cheap back when I bought it. $80 for 32 pounds.

The first powder I ever bought was a 1lb can of IMR rifle powder (4895), at William's Arms in 1989, I believe it was $17.50. So getting an 8lbs jug for $20 in the same time frame, yeah, I will say you did okay.
 
Yup, I’m currently a fan boy of IMR 4320. Bought a couple of 8 pounders back in 2019, pre-covid joy. :evil:
I feel yer pain!!


Cheers,
Barney
 
I have about 6 lbs of IMR 4320 left, but it seems to be in good condition.
I also like it in the 303 British. Great accuracy and decent velocity.
Another great 303 powder is Norma 202. I have a bit of that too, so not
in need of more for my 1910 Ross. EE.
 
so 24 lbs of powder that can't be called 4320 any longer
How bad was the can when you peeled it apart? pitted or discoloured?

The can was very rusty over the whole surface. All powdery rust covered and pitted with some scabbing clumps. I wouldn't want to shoot it.
 
The first powder I ever bought was a 1lb can of IMR rifle powder (4895), at William's Arms in 1989, I believe it was $17.50. So getting an 8lbs jug for $20 in the same time frame, yeah, I will say you did okay.

The store went out of business and the creditors were selling everything off before they had to pack it up and take it to the local auction house. I made a rediculous offer and they took it.
 
Been-there-done-that. Gave 8 pounds of various powders to my local RCMP for disposal. It had rust all along the rim of the metal lid. Powder appeared normal, however not taking any chances. The powders were quite old, some up to 20 years.
 
Why involve them?

^^ My question as well. I give my unknown powder to a good friend who uses it in ceremonies with his elders. Otherwise, I'd just flush it down the toilet. According to ??, it doesn't make good fertilizer.
 
I had the same thing happen to me with IMR 7828. Bottom of the containor was rusted. Cleaned the rust out of the powder and put in a plastic Hodgdon bottle all was good.
 
Smokeless powder makes good lawn fertilizer , it's nitrogen rich .

Yeah, I used to believe that one as well.

I have a spot in my wife's flower gardens where I dumped several pounds of powder well over 10 years ago and even though it's been well mixed into the soil, if you look closely those extruded grains are still intact but no longer shiney

I guess the nitrates will eventually break down, but who knows how long this will take???
 
I had the same thing happen to me with IMR 7828. Bottom of the containor was rusted. Cleaned the rust out of the powder and put in a plastic Hodgdon bottle all was good.

You were lucky, or at least for now.

What you don't say is whether the rust in the container was from the powder breaking down or from another cause.

I've had cans of powder rust from the outside in an that powder is usually just fine.

When you start to get inconsistent velocities from a batch of powder with rusty dust all through it, it's not a question of is it breaking down but when is it no longer acceptable to use for such things as hunting loads or accuracy loads.
 
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