Wow, is it really that bad?They both jam on a regular basis regardless of the brand and type of ammunition used
I have a number of these rifles and they are absolutely totally reliable. Use CCI minimag 40 grain. Most people with problems love feeding these rifles crap ammo or refuse to clean their guns after 400-500 rounds.Wow, is it really that bad?
This will be my first gun, and I’d really like to avoid the frustration of dealing with constant jamming.
Don't know about build quality; these are certainly not CZs by any stretch, but if you want loud mag-dumps, then 9" is the only way to go!!If anyone has used both of these guns, which one do you think is better?
How do they compare in terms of shooting experience, accuracy, and range?
I’ve seen some YouTube reviews suggesting that the 9-inch version has better build quality. Is that accurate?
Mine only jammed with federal bulk.They both jam on a regular basis regardless of the brand and type of ammunition used
shoudnt go less than 13.5" LOP bcos the AOL will be under 26".LOP on the 9" is pretty long from what I gather? Doesn't go shorter than like 13.5" or so?
Yeah, whereas the 16" version has positions for something like 10.5" and 12.25" in addition to the full length of like 14.5". Perfect for the kiddos to grow with. I love the look of the 9" version, but I am always thinking about my kids when buying guns these days.shoudnt go less than 13.5" LOP bcos the AOL will be under 26".
Can you describe what is failing with the 16" model? FTF, light strike, etc.One kid has the 16" version, the other has the 9" version. They pool their mags, so no issue there, but the 16" one can rarely make it through a mag without jamming, while the 9" runs like a sewing machine. Accuracy seems about the same between them, 2-3 MOA. We mostly shoot bulk CCI Blazer.
TLDR: seems hit and miss about finding a good one versus a lemon.
Free advice you didn't ask for: I really wouldn't recommend a GSG-16 for a first gun, I'd get a bone-stock 10/22 instead. It's going to be accurate enough to learn the fundamentals on (stick with irons to start), still has the fun-factor of semi-auto, is a legend for reliability, and can be upgraded in any way you could possibly imagine. A GSG-16 is lots of fun, but a 10/22 has the potential to be a lifetime gun. As an added bonus when you've finished upgrading everything on your 10/22 to custom parts, you'll still have an entire bone-stock 10/22 left over...
FTF, mostly stovepipesCan you describe what is failing with the 16" model? FTF, light strike, etc.
Seriously I have a significant number of these rifles and I have never experienced anything remotely to describing it as a gun that jams.
I've never used Blazer in my GSGs however, only minimag 40grain
The 9" has an LOP of 15.25" min. And a total length of 28". You can get aftermarket stocks that will reduce the LOP and still be NRshoudnt go less than 13.5" LOP bcos the AOL will be under 26".
lol. i know.... you missed the point. changing to airsoft mp5 fixed will give you 13.5" LOP. less than 13.5" will be restricted.The 9" has an LOP of 15.25" min. And a total length of 28". You can get aftermarket stocks that will reduce the LOP and still be NR
Or would it? Mp5 stock is fixed and the gsg16 is rimfire, so it wouldn't meet the definition of an R gun unless the act of changing the stock qualifies as otherwise:lol. i know.... you missed the point. changing to airsoft mp5 fixed will give you 13.5" LOP. less than 13.5" will be restricted.
(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise,
yeah, its a debate than doesnt seems to go away but im satisfied with dlask's explanation when they sold us their 9" barrels.Or would it? Mp5 stock is fixed and the gsg16 is rimfire, so it wouldn't meet the definition of an R gun unless the act of changing the stock qualifies as otherwise:
And I've been told repeatedly on CGN that changing the stock doesn't meet that bar. (Personally I'm not sure if it does or not, I haven't seen compelling evidence for either interpretation.)