Gsg-16 legal status - public announcement

Danfizz said:
Anyway,BL act like they are the victim for their long work with gsg to make the GSG 16,spending money time etc Manifacturer make a model,BL summit it to rcmp,please i want proof you spend money on the conception of that rifle ...

The rifle is being sold in USA for a certain period of time now,so BL is responsible of the creation of the GSG 16 ?
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Read post # 19 again....
 
phillyblt said:
Yeah but IRG was still selling prohibs as NRs. That's pretty shady.
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How do you figure that?
IRG stated at the very beginning that they had a sample with the lab as well.
IIRC, they were actually the first to announce the FRT classification to NR, before BL did.
They would have gotten that info directly from the RCMP lab.
They imported the guns to Canada and sold them retail, you think they would've been able to do that without a NR FRT?? And risk losing their business license over it?

A little discernment goes a long way.

Youza.
 
So IRG says the RCMP told them it was BL trying to report the rifle as prohibited. Is this really what the RCMP said, or are those words being twisted by IRG?
BL says they were contacted by police. Is that really the case? why would police contact BL to inquire about an issue that affects IRG?
BL says the FRT status for the ATI guns was coming up as prohib for some time....wouldn't that indicate that they were actively searching the FRT database to keep an eye on IRG in some way?

More info needed on both ends. Reading all statements from both parties, I feel they should both be volunteering more details about this. I don't feel like we are getting the full picture from either.

Its actually quite possible that both are wrongfully accusing eachother strictly due to how RCMP handled the matter.

Youza.
 
Youzawhale said:
So IRG says the RCMP told them it was BL trying to report the rifle as prohibited. Is this really what the RCMP said, or are those words being twisted by IRG?
BL says they were contacted by police. Is that really the case? why would police contact BL to inquire about an issue that affects IRG?
BL says the FRT status for the ATI guns was coming up as prohib for some time....wouldn't that indicate that they were actively searching the FRT database to keep an eye on IRG in some way?

More info needed on both ends. Reading all statements from both parties, I feel they should both be volunteering more details about this. I don't feel like we are getting the full picture from either.

Its actually quite possible that both are wrongfully accusing eachother strictly due to how RCMP handled the matter.

Youza.
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You really need another hobby man.
 
I'm still unsure why BL keeps repeating over and over again that they worked on this for years and spent a lot of cash over this gun.
We heard you the last 3 times, it doesn't change anything to the ongoing issue...why are they so defensive and trying to gain sympathy by saying this?
 
Vewdu said:
You really need another hobby man.
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Well, considering yours is to follow around my posts, i'd say maybe you even more than I do.
At least i'm trying to get to the bottom of something in which I have a stake.
What are you doing, aside from reading me and complaining about it?
Feel free to leave anytime, no one is keeping you here.

Youza.
 
Youza.

The only rifle any police could encounter was ATI version. So, if you search FRT a month ago, it would be listed as prohibited. Yet, if you search internet, you will see that GSG was promoted as non-restricted. So, it was prudent for police to find out as what exactly is going on. I bet there is a third player to the story. A person with a rifle who met the police at the beginning of the story.
 
guess_kto said:
Youza.

The only rifle any police could encounter was ATI version. So, if you search FRT a month ago, it would be listed as prohibited. Yet, if you search internet, you will see that GSG was promoted as non-restricted. So, it was prudent for police to find out as what exactly is going on. I bet there is a third player to the story. A person with a rifle who met the police at the beginning of the story.
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You may be on to something.
 
Can-down said:
Read post # 19 again....
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Read post #1 and here is a quote :

Blue Line Solutions said:
Blue Line, as German Sport Guns official and sole Canadian representative (not "another company that imports GSG-16") have worked together with GSG on the classification of the GSG-16 rifles for years. Finally, a few months ago, we received a letter from the RCMP confirming the Non-Restricted classification for the GSG-16 Canadian Model (FRT number 195454). Throughout this process, we have spent tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees in an attempt to approve for Canadian market GSG rifles of a similar look.
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guess_kto said:
Youza.

The only rifle any police could encounter was ATI version. So, if you search FRT a month ago, it would be listed as prohibited. Yet, if you search internet, you will see that GSG was promoted as non-restricted. So, it was prudent for police to find out as what exactly is going on. I bet there is a third player to the story. A person with a rifle who met the police at the beginning of the story.
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You might be right. I thought of this scenario too.

Youza.
 
For the sake of disclosure I am not on a pre-order list for the GSG-16, nor have purchased a ATI version.
I am however going to buy one eventually.

One question that's bothering me is how many new products (FRT numbers) has IRG introduced on their own to the Canadian market?
I remember the CZ Scorpion Evo3 drama involving Wolverine and IRG. I'm sure there are other incidents. It always seems a Canadian importer gets approval to import (FRT number) and then IRG steals their thunder by using the approval (FRT number) to import from USA.
 
baldabe said:
For the sake of disclosure I am not on a pre-order list for the GSG-16, nor have purchased a ATI version.
I am however going to buy one eventually.

One question that's bothering me is how many new products (FRT numbers) has IRG introduced on their own to the Canadian market?
I remember the CZ Scorpion Evo3 drama involving Wolverine and IRG. I'm sure there are other incidents. It always seems a Canadian importer gets approval to import (FRT number) and then IRG steals their thunder by using the approval (FRT number) to import from USA.
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IRG has responded in their forum. They claim to have submitted the ATI GSG 16 to the lab and were part of the process to get the NR status. They also levied a few more accusations about BLS annoyance over not being the sole importer.
 
I have a feeling customs may have triggered this. BLS'S shipment just came in so customs probably held it as they figure out whether or not they are prohibited or non restricted. Then they probably backtracked previous shipments and noted IRG'S shipments and asked RCMP to clarify. This probably prompted them to investigate. Probably why BLS shipment took a while to receive.
 
baldabe said:
For the sake of disclosure I am not on a pre-order list for the GSG-16, nor have purchased a ATI version.
I am however going to buy one eventually.

One question that's bothering me is how many new products (FRT numbers) has IRG introduced on their own to the Canadian market?
I remember the CZ Scorpion Evo3 drama involving Wolverine and IRG. I'm sure there are other incidents. It always seems a Canadian importer gets approval to import (FRT number) and then IRG steals their thunder by using the approval (FRT number) to import from USA.
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Same thing happened with the Stag 10 and Arms East
 
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