GSG 1911 .22 Reliability Issue

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I have a GSG1911 I bought brand new and loved it. I put about 2000 rounds through it before it started to get gunked up.

I had read that the ZRTS upgrade kit was beneficial and so I ordered that and installed when I cleaned it.

I took it to the range after installing and had NOTHING but problems. Every round would have a failure. Stove pipes. Failure to feed. Failure to extract. It could not fire two shots in a row.

I removed the ZRTS kit and returned it to stock. Gave it an even more through cleaning. Took the firing mechanism out. Lubed it all up etc.

Went to the range today and still issues. It works better than it did but its still having an issue every 5-10 shots. Will still get stove pipes. FTF's. FTE's. Etc.

Has anyone ever experienced this before? I'm perplexed and have no more ideas. I'm ready to just sell it to someone half price and be done with it but if I can fix it I would rather do that.
 
I recently bought gsg as well . About 300 rounds or so. Have lots of FTF and light primer strikes. Winchester 555 ammo is about 40-60% reliable. Federal auto match 325 white box is horrible, FTF every second round. Only ammo thats working is cci mini mags 36 grain. Really sad about the reliability of this gun. I am debating on the ZRTS Kit but not sure what to do.
 
My GSG really likes the Federal Auto and the CCI standard rounds. I did have similar ssues at first (ftf; fte) but after 500 rounds it settled down and now it is quite reliable as long as I feed it ammo it likes. It will not shoot Winchester .22 ammo at all. I was considering the ZRTS kit as well. Let us know if and when you get this resolved.
 
took about 2000 rounds of CCI stinger to get it to work reliably after my armacoat job. Now it feeds anything.
 
I recently bought the Gsg conversion for my Norc 1911 , I've only had it out once and had no issues with mini-mag 40gr, however when I insert a new mag the slide drops forward. Anyone else?
 
Got about ~ 3K rounds thru mine. Other than a good cleaning after each use & orginally having replaced the pot metal barrel bushing with a factory Colt steel one, I haven't had any issues at all. Mine likes the high velocity .22 ammo, though.

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i have the zrts kit installed, i also polished the rails and keep them lubed, mine is 100% reliable with remington golden bullets, i'll get a failure on rare occasion, but it won't eat the cheaper bulk ammo at all, stove pipes and jams up for passtime.
 
I just don't get why it would run flawlessly for 2000 rounds then stop working now. It ONLY started having issues with the ZRTS kit and after I took it out.

I've checked the diagrams and everything is where it should be.

Like another said earlier. Which components do you polish and with what? Perhaps that would help. It seems like there is never enough power to recoil the slide.

It used to eat every single type of ammo I had. Remington Golden, Thunderbolt, Winchester 333.
 
I e only used cci ammo through mine and after the first couple mags, I very rarely have issues. 1 ftf in 100 maybe? Have around 1500-1800 rounds down the pipe.
 
This is a bit tricky cause you got so much stuff going on at the same time.

Best thing to do is put it back to stock, it worked for a while like that so that's the best way to test.

FTF can be a couple things. Mags, weak grip, weak ammo, crud. Load 5, lock the slide back, use the slide release to let it run forward. It should feed that first round perfectly. If it doesn't make sure you've got the mag seated with a bit of a slap. The mag safety can make it seem like it's in place but a slight tap don't hurt. Firm 2 handed grip and let a string to.

If you get FTF's after the 1'st round it's usually the ammo isn't giving the slide enough of push back to fully cycle the action. Mini mags solve that problem when you can get them or other hot 22's like the viper or yellow jackets. See if you can borrow a mag that is known to work and cycle. That should help to isolate that issue.

FTE is often crud based or lube in the chamber. Weak grip and ammo can also play a part. Run a brush and a couple dry patches down the barrel and you're ready to test. Firm grip and good ammo and fire away. If you've still got issues check your fired brass. Are you seeing any scrapes or dings in the brass ? Damaged feed lip, bur in the chamber.


With or without the ZRTS you can loose the forward screw without issue. It's superfluous tbh, and actually a bit of a pita to good functioning. It can run the gun overly tight for no good reason. That in and off itself might solve a bunch of issues.

let us know how it goes and we'll keep working on it if need be. There's thousands of GSG's out there putting alot of ammo down range. Fixing yours shouldn't be a big deal.
 
Thanks for the info. I'll go through all your suggestions when I take it to the range next. I love the gun. Before I fiddled with the ZRTS kit it was awesome and reliable.

What purpose does that screw even have? And is it acceptable to take it out and leave an open hole?

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This is a bit tricky cause you got so much stuff going on at the same time.

Best thing to do is put it back to stock, it worked for a while like that so that's the best way to test.

FTF can be a couple things. Mags, weak grip, weak ammo, crud. Load 5, lock the slide back, use the slide release to let it run forward. It should feed that first round perfectly. If it doesn't make sure you've got the mag seated with a bit of a slap. The mag safety can make it seem like it's in place but a slight tap don't hurt. Firm 2 handed grip and let a string to.

If you get FTF's after the 1'st round it's usually the ammo isn't giving the slide enough of push back to fully cycle the action. Mini mags solve that problem when you can get them or other hot 22's like the viper or yellow jackets. See if you can borrow a mag that is known to work and cycle. That should help to isolate that issue.

FTE is often crud based or lube in the chamber. Weak grip and ammo can also play a part. Run a brush and a couple dry patches down the barrel and you're ready to test. Firm grip and good ammo and fire away. If you've still got issues check your fired brass. Are you seeing any scrapes or dings in the brass ? Damaged feed lip, bur in the chamber.


With or without the ZRTS you can loose the forward screw without issue. It's superfluous tbh, and actually a bit of a pita to good functioning. It can run the gun overly tight for no good reason. That in and off itself might solve a bunch of issues.

let us know how it goes and we'll keep working on it if need be. There's thousands of GSG's out there putting alot of ammo down range. Fixing yours shouldn't be a big deal.
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Broke mine with around 1000 rounds of cci mini-mags, then (when I could find it) federal bulk was faultless.....only other thing i did was polish the feed ramp....both of mine prefer fmj or copper washed ammo......up to around 10+ thousand rounds with zero issues so far....
 
Double check that you put the recoil spring in correctly, it goes in both ways but the gun will only work if it's put in the right way.

Scott
 
I'm not sure why they bothered with the screw up front. It tightens the gun, but in the wrong place to help accuracy. Obviously it's useless if you just bought the top end conversion so I'm not sure what they were thinking when they added it to their own lower. You can leave the hole open and nothing should happen. There is a kit that you can get to drill and tap it and put in a threaded plug but that's probably alot more trouble and risk than it's worth.
 
Before I parted with my GSG 1911, I had almost 5000 rds. The 1st 300 rds had a few FTFs, FTEs. One thing I noticed, HV ammo as to CCI Minimag, Blazer, Fed 525 are the ones that had least issues. Win 222/333/555 are not as bad. But Win Wildcat is the WORST. But after 2000 rds, CCI SV seems to work fine. Cleaning is not necessary at least to 500 rds. However, keep it lubed vigorously. I use G96 or any light synthetic motor oil. Light grease is not suggested so as Froglube. If ever you are still experiencing more troubles, contact Blueline Solutions. They have the best after-sales support in the market.
 
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