Guelph police switch to Glock 22

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In the paper tonight that the guelph police are buying 180 Glocks from an Ontario Gun Dealer for $550 each and trading their 14 year old Beretta 96D's in for $125 each. What will this Ontario gun Dealer do with the beretta's?? Will they be made available for purchase??
 
They have been in the past, but don't be expecting to see them for $126.

The last trade in's were sold for $4-500 IIRC.
 
Current trade-ins are going for $550.
Comes with the following:
# Sights: Trijicon 3 Dot Night Sights
# Condition: Very Good plus to Excellent
# Shots Fired: 1,700 to 2,700 of Factory Ammunition
# Supplied with the following items:
Safariland 0705 Level Three Duty Holster (right and left hand available)
Safariland Duty Belt
Magazine Pouch (single or double)
One TEN Round Magazine (while the 10 round magazines last)
# Maintained since new by Beretta Factory Certified Armourer. These were in service pistols from a Canadian Police Agency who upgraded to GLOCK model 22 Pistols.
 
Wow, that's an almost $100,000 deal for the supplier.... Not all profit but I bet they aren't losing on it either.

But then they also stand to make $76,000 on the trade-ins if they buy 'em for $125 and resell at $550.

But who wants a holster worn Beretta DAO .40 cal..... :runaway:
 
Wow, that's an almost $100,000 deal for the supplier.... Not all profit but I bet they aren't losing on it either.

But then they also stand to make $76,000 on the trade-ins if they buy 'em for $125 and resell at $550.

But who wants a holster worn Beretta DAO .40 cal..... :runaway:

Well, look at it this way before you judge. The supplier is likely out the full amount of the contract price, less his discount. The trade in cost is his to bear until he unloads the guns. 96DAO are not exactly high flying guns, so until 25% of the guns are sold, he's on the hook.

Good money in the end, if you've got the great money up front.
 
Well, look at it this way before you judge. The supplier is likely out the full amount of the contract price, less his discount. The trade in cost is his to bear until he unloads the guns. 96DAO are not exactly high flying guns, so until 25% of the guns are sold, he's on the hook.

Good money in the end, if you've got the great money up front.

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Yeah, I wouldn't be ringing any phones off the hook to pick one up for $550.... :eek: :D
 
Canuck223: I can't believe that the supplier would essentially sell for cost on that number of Glock's. Chances are the supplier also arranged the training and certification for the GPD, and that's where the real money is. Selling the trade-in's for $550 sounds suspicious enough to make me think that, perhaps, someone has purchased the lot from the GPD supplier and marked it up. Or to put it another way, why go retail if you don't have to?

-- Stephen
 
I've actually seen the invoice... :D
160 G22's and 40 G23's or...27's
Ironically siting on the desk along side the invoice for Guelphs Glocks were two of their cracked Beretta slides one of which the front sight had broken off of as well.
The supplier is Police Ord.

Not really new news though... my neibour is a Guelph cop and he's had his G22 for a while already.
 
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Canuck223: I can't believe that the supplier would essentially sell for cost on that number of Glock's. Chances are the supplier also arranged the training and certification for the GPD, and that's where the real money is. Selling the trade-in's for $550 sounds suspicious enough to make me think that, perhaps, someone has purchased the lot from the GPD supplier and marked it up. Or to put it another way, why go retail if you don't have to?

-- Stephen

They don't do a "train the trainer" scenario? Likely, they already have a few firearms "trainers" on the Dept. Just a matter of them getting the Glock armourers certification & they are in businesss.
 
At least the Guelph police are selling/trading their old guns. I believe Toronto has/had a policy that all old police guns would go to the smelter.

Heaven forbid that one of them "falls" into the wrong hands.
 
One of the Guelph cops I was talking with last year when the news was just first leaking out was pretty disappointed with this. He loved his 96D.

Well, there's no doubt about it. The 96D is a little more classy than the Glock. I liken Berettas to art sometimes, they're just that gorgeous but with the locking block issues, I'm not surprised with the switch to Glock.
 
Well, there's no doubt about it. The 96D is a little more classy than the Glock. I liken Berettas to art sometimes, they're just that gorgeous but with the locking block issues, I'm not surprised with the switch to Glock.

Classy gets you dead. Its about a having a tool that works all the time. I'm surprised it didn't take a dead cop to make the switch.

ETA: The lock blocks on Beretta's are notorious for shearing off. Quite frequently. Most other manufacturers incorporate the lock block into the barrel. Beretta went with a three piece system.

TDC
 
Canuck223: I can't believe that the supplier would essentially sell for cost on that number of Glock's. Chances are the supplier also arranged the training and certification for the GPD, and that's where the real money is. Selling the trade-in's for $550 sounds suspicious enough to make me think that, perhaps, someone has purchased the lot from the GPD supplier and marked it up. Or to put it another way, why go retail if you don't have to?

-- Stephen

Armourer training is usually built into the RFP on major police contracts. In the old days, the entire shot was picked up by Glock including travel to Smyrna GA for the course, all manuals and tools, accommodations, and a very generous supply of spare parts. This may vary by dept. size as our RFP was for 1200 guns and now that Glock owns the majority of North American police market, they may not be working as hard.
 
Armourer training is usually built into the RFP on major police contracts. In the old days, the entire shot was picked up by Glock including travel to Smyrna GA for the course, all manuals and tools, accommodations, and a very generous supply of spare parts. This may vary by dept. size as our RFP was for 1200 guns and now that Glock owns the majority of North American police market, they may not be working as hard.

Thanks tobin, that makes sense to me.

-- Stephen
 
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