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I've had similar conversations with my liberal anti brother in law and his girlfriend, minus the are you going to kill us question. They're not that stupid lol, I always maintain my point of view on the subject and always extend a range trip invite on my dime so they can experience first hand why people enjoy shooting guns.

I've made some progress with them, I had them handling a bunch of my guns when they came over for dinner. They got to see the safe storage side of the coin and hopefully some of the fear of the unknown was dispelled. I will eventually get them out shooting haha.
 
It is funny as I am in this group as well, there has been the mention of firearms and doing harm to others(won't say if family or friends), to much TV I think and everyone thinking they are an FBI profiler, it is actually not funny at all.

Challenger2010 said:
Had a surreal conversation last night with a family member while visiting last night. Just awful.

Since 1997 when I acquired my FAC which was then renewed to a PAL/RPAL, I had never made an attempt in all those years to buy a firearm, of any kind. Aside from buying 2 rounds of ammo during all that time.

About 3 months ago, I started getting back into this by researching clubs, what kind of firearm I would like to attain etc. I even started going to a club and start in on their handgun safety course in order to be a member. Part of the probationary period is to go through 4 sessions as a guest the club and learn the in's and out's of the clubs policies, range etiquette, gun safety, etc etc.

Then last night the Orlando situation happened. I get confronted by this family member barraging me with questions like......"What's with you and the gun thing all of a sudden?????" and "What do you need with a thing like that????" "You're not actually thinking of buying one are you???" and the worst one of them all "You're not going to kill us are you????"

It was the worst.

Am I alone on this???? Have other's here been given the 4th degree on this stuff? It's one thing to get this from friends. I just blow them off, but from family. How do other's here cope/deal with this?

FYI, I'm a middle aged male and I live on my own.
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Kelly Timoffee said:
It is funny as I am in this group as well, there has been the mention of firearms and doing harm to others(won't say if family or friends), to much TV I think and everyone thinking they are an FBI profiler, it is actually not funny at all.
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My first thought on reading that was "Well, no wonder they were worried. According to Criminal Minds, you're 9000% more likely to commit a murder 20 out of every 25 episodes per season."

Seriously though, insinuating someone you know well is going to go on a killing spree because of an object they own > owning guns in terms of the "that's disturbing, what's wrong with you?" scale to any reasonable mind.
 
Did your family / friends ?/ etc recently get theyre meds mixed up ??. I just watched a show a night or two ago , about pharmacies getting perscriptions mixed up and the results seemed kinds familiar to the situation you went thru .
But in reality you are gonna meet these kind of people in any situation
Why did u buy a ford
why did u put grey siding on your house
why did you grow a beard
you have a rotweiller ????. it will eat your children
and personally I,m enuff of , and confident in my :A hole : abilities I likely would have dead panned a reply like ... Hmmm, not today ... I usually do my killings on Fridays ... And I usually start with the women and kids first . Just so you know .
 
"You aren't going to kill us are you?". This is classic transference! Some years ago I watched a video where a psychiatrist who dealt with gun violence studies mentioned this exact thing. Persons unfamiliar with firearms often fear those of use who are shooters. Why, because the only personal association they have with firearms is the have often thought, in their own mind, of shooting someone in anger. Therefore, they associated this personal thought to everyone else. Making them particularly afraid of firearms owners. I'm sorry I can remember more on his study. He was a Jewish fellow who had worked on the study for a U.S. University. I'll do a search on the Internet to see if I can find it. If I do I will post the link.
 
Mp425 said:
"You aren't going to kill us are you?". This is classic transference! Some years ago I watched a video where a psychiatrist who dealt with gun violence studies mentioned this exact thing. Persons unfamiliar with firearms often fear those of use who are shooters. Why, because the only personal association they have with firearms is the have often thought, in their own mind, of shooting someone in anger. Therefore, they associated this personal thought to everyone else. Making them particularly afraid of firearms owners. I'm sorry I can remember more on his study. He was a Jewish fellow who had worked on the study for a U.S. University. I'll do a search on the Internet to see if I can find it. If I do I will post the link.
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Then the OP can copy and send it to the grown baby.
 
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It really shows what they think of you to ask you if you're going to kill them. It's good to know what they think of you eh.
Also I stopped caring what most of my family members thought years ago. Some people you just can't please or do right by no matter what , you only stress yourself out by trying. They go home and sleep like a baby on their high horse while you rack your brain thinking about what they said. If it was one of your parents , their hold on you should have stopped after high school.
I would tell them straight up to respectfully get f@cked.
 
Invite them to target shoot! Don`t stop asking until they come. I finally got my liberal politically correct wussof a brother in-law to come AND HE HAD A HELL OF A TIME, best part was it was a black SKS with an aftermarket baur clip! Lol
 
I live on my own, have my own hobbies ,enjoy them on my own.

They want to judge , it is their problem.Funny how MY/YOUR life choices are so important to everyone else around.

The only person you have to answer to is yourself , unless you do something stupid in life.


ApatheticExcuse said:
My first thought on reading that was "Well, no wonder they were worried. According to Criminal Minds, you're 9000% more likely to commit a murder 20 out of every 25 episodes per season."

Seriously though, insinuating someone you know well is going to go on a killing spree because of an object they own > owning guns in terms of the "that's disturbing, what's wrong with you?" scale to any reasonable mind.
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TedNugent said:
My wife said to me after the shooting that "all guns should be banned".
Some of us have it better than others.
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My wife: what the #### does it have to do with guns ?!?! Buddy killes dozens with a knive !!! Wake the #### up retards !!

1 month ago she asks me:

Her: hun, are you alright ?
Me: yeah why ?
Her: you havent bought a gun in the last 8 months or ammo
Me: dont really need anything right now
Her: you should go to the range tomorrow and enjoy it before Turd2 bans it all
Me: ahahah... Wait a minute what do you want ?!!
Her: nothing just go enjoy your guns

1 month later, still nothing, no crazy spending sprees, no unexpected home renos. And she gladly tells off anyone who blames guns


PS: I love my wife, and she is very entertaining due to pregnancy and hormones.
 
Challenger2010 said:
"You're not going to kill us are you????"
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I don't know you and I don't know this person, but it's clear from this quote that _one_ of you is mentally ill.

Either the family member is expressing a legitimate concern over you, or else is a big drama baby with a tenuous grip on reality.

If you look inward and come to the conclusion that it's not you, then it's them.
 
Doesn't work that way, you own the guns so automatically you have issues in most peoples eyes.

All it takes is one comment to the right people and your time as a gun owner or a normal member of society is finished , even if it IS facetious and a lie.

"I thought he was going to shoot me"

"I felt threatened"

"he/she said they would hurt me"

Anyone says any one of those to the police and you are a gun owner, you are finished.

It is a sad state of affairs that responsible law abiding gun owners have to think in a state of constant paranoia, but it is necessary for self preservation.

red_bailey said:
I don't know you and I don't know this person, but it's clear from this quote that _one_ of you is mentally ill.

Either the family member is expressing a legitimate concern over you, or else is a big drama baby with a tenuous grip on reality.

If you look inward and come to the conclusion that it's not you, then it's them.
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kodiakjack said:
If someone in my life seriously posed the question "Are you going to kill me/us?" I would do two things:

First, question my life choices to see if such a heinous comment is deserved.

Second, if answering the first question to the negative, then I would cut that person out of my life. I have no time or energy for people that don't trust me to do something as simple as NOT KILL THEM. What a disgusting question. I really can't think of a worse insult. Ugh.
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This would be my response too.
 
I was in a similar situation about 2 years ago. A member of my girlfriend's family told me she was afraid that I kill my girlfriend because I own guns. I stayed calm and explained to her that the simple fact that I own firearms doesn't mean i'm a killer. I know how you feel, but some people are ####ed up in their heads. This particular member of my family takes medication and brings a lot of drama in the family. Just get over it and have fun with your guns!
 
Someone being concerned about firearms owners killing people hopefully don't consume alcohol or know anyone who does because of the deaths caused by drinking.
 
I point out its interesting that their first thought is about killing someone.

My first thought of a gun is hitting a target and a relaxing hobby.

Puts the "killer" thoughts back on them.

Never heard it from family btw but have heard it from others.
 
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