Gun ban question

I am about to place my order for a bunch of stuff and 2 ars but I got thinking. What happens if Billy Boy and Trudeau go full retard and do an oic banning forearms overnight. I know there are a lot of what ifs but say the export is refused and items cannot be important anymore. Would IRunGuns issue refunds etc?

Sorry to ask the dumb questions but you never know with our supreme leaders in charge.

Keep receipts so Libs can buy your stuff at proper price
 
If I did not have an AR then I would:

Buy now and buy cheaply

Not spend a lot of $ on expensive accessories that will not be bought back

Do a lot of shooting while you still can

Don't be surprised if you do end up having to have firearms confiscated but hope for the best

This seems like great common sense to me.

Buy cheap, shoot the hell out of it, don't bother with doodads that can't be used on fudd guns, enjoy life, and hope for the best.
 
Never hurts to keep buying if we can afford to. Keep driving up the cost past what their projections are for a buyback. Flood the market with more than the current budget allows for.
 
Order placed I already have 3 ars but good deal on the 10.5 PSA on the us website. Also got some mags and other stuff. I get all the ban stuff hype. I just wanted to see should #### hit the fan and something happens before the forearms are transfered or arrive what would happen with the transaction. Happy new year all!
 
If I recall after the throne speech Bill Blair was surrounded by a media scrum and stated that it would take 2 years to come up with the frame work to pull off this dog and pony show of a gun ban/buy back. Lol, buy as many F'N guns as you can afford these donkeys won't be power long enough to implement any of it.

2 years, is just long enough for them to recieve the cushy pensions(they need 6yrs total to receive). That's all they are interested in, and what there main objective is about. If there minority government even lasts that long. Avg for minority Gov 18 months.

I'm curious how much would these retired MP's receive after sitting for 6 years ?
 
It’s not a buy back. They never sold you your guns.

It’s a non voluntary surrender of your guns, you bought, with your money in exchange for your own money again (tax dollars).

It’s theft of property, or confiscation.

Fair market value (the amount of your own tax dollars you’ll get back for it) could be based on.
1. What you paid for it.
2. What it’s worth now that it’s illegal to possess (zip, zero, zilch).
3. What it could go for on the black market.

I’d like to be paid what a criminal would get paid. Since we’re going to be treated as criminals. I’d like blackmarket value. Let’s say 10k for an AR15

Buy what you want. Only you can decide if Bill and Trudeau can get them.

Let’s call it a a buy back if Justin and Bill are using their own money, or daddy’s money, not they have any of their own EARNED money, but you know what I mean.

Interestingly enough. Trudeau’s comrade made private ownership of firearms illegal after he overthrew President Fulgencio Batista. The apple didn’t fall far from the tree there... if you catch my drift.

I like the way you think. :)
 
I'm curious how much would these retired MP's receive after sitting for 6 years ?


Members of the House of Commons may use the post-nominal letters "MP". The annual salary of each member of Parliament is, as of 2017, $172,700; members may receive additional salaries in right of other offices they hold (for instance, the






https://www.canada.ca/en/treasury-b...-changes-members-parliament-pension-plan.html



Some MPs not running in the next election will get paid around $1.6 million in severance
Thirty-nine sitting MPs have declared they won't run again in the next election, of whom 18 are eligible for severance payments totalling an estimated $1,618,850


https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...will-get-paid-around-1-6-million-in-severance
 
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Order placed I already have 3 ars but good deal on the 10.5 PSA on the us website. Also got some mags and other stuff. I get all the ban stuff hype. I just wanted to see should #### hit the fan and something happens before the forearms are transfered or arrive what would happen with the transaction. Happy new year all!

Happy new year, YPC.
 
And the big kicker why they won't be a ban for two years until they get the infrastructure in place as stated by Bill Blair. And why I laugh at all of it, nothing to do with firearms and everything to do with chasing paper. That's why I say you want my firearms, you'll get them BF. You F'N theifs/criminals/gangsters/DB'S. Rob me and you'll get served.

AKA "THE BIG LIE"
ht tps://business.financialpost.com/executive/careers/mp-defined-benefit-pensions-are-one-reason-for-opposition-parties-to-prop-up-a-liberal-minority


The other federal parties can, at any time, depose the Liberal minority government through a non-confidence vote. But they won’t for at least two years. Why? In part, because of parliamentary pensions.

Now that the Liberals are in a minority, the opposition parties control the committees, and Parliament itself, if they work collectively.

They can put before the public the secrets that the Liberals worked so assiduously to hide. Some of the information that former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould and others said they wished to share but were precluded from doing so, could potentially come out. The Liberals can no longer block committee hearings or prevent witnesses from testifying, although they can still invoke cabinet confidentiality and solicitor-client privilege.

Canada Post is right: Defined-benefit pension plans are unaffordable for any employer
If you lie to an employer during hiring, you can be fired. Shouldn’t that apply to Trudeau too?
Liberal moves to legislate work-life balance are voter friendly, but disastrous for business
One might think that the other parties would rush to bring down the Liberal party. After all, they made political mileage over the government’s refusal to release Wilson-Raybould, former Treasury Board president Jane Philpott and others from cabinet confidentiality, despite how anxious witnesses were to tell their stories.

But that was before the election. There are two reasons that they won’t now. The first is that, if the Liberals are totally wiped out by the revelations, the Conservative party will likely get a majority and the NDP and Bloc Quebecois will lose the upper hand in Parliament, with Liberals dependent upon them to enact legislation.

But one should never ignore the impact of a more mundane motivation: pensions.

MPs initially elected in 2015 are not eligible to claim their Parliamentary pension unless they remain in office until at least 2021. This is a defined benefit pension plan, pursuant to the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act, which can be received regardless of interest rates or the market.

Such plans used to be relatively common in large private sector employers but they are so expensive that they drove many companies into insolvency. That is why you scarcely find them today outside of the public sector. An analysis by Frederick Vettese, author of the book, Retirement Income for Life: Getting More without Saving More, predicts that defined benefit plans will be extinct in the private sector by 2026 while continuing to grow in the public sector.



One might think it unfair that Parliamentarians receive pensions the vast majority of Canadian employers cannot afford for their own employees. But, for the same reason public sector unions are loathe to give them up, Parliamentarians are motivated to ensure that they work the requisite number of years to receive them. That is why they are unlikely to drive the Liberals out of office for at least two years.

In my practice, I have found that employees are loathe to leave their jobs before they receive a significant bonus or other potential entitlement. Few MPs are children of privilege or have created significant wealth themselves. So why topple the Liberals and call an election now, before they are guaranteed their pensions?

The traditional private-public sector dichotomy was that public sector employees had better benefits and pensions, enjoyed greater job security, worked less but, in return, earned less. Over the last number of years, that has reversed with public sector workers continuing to enjoy these advantages, particularly the defined benefit pension, but earning more as well.

Why is that? In the private sector, union and non-union alike, market discipline applies. If an employer provides wages that are too high, it goes out of business. Even unions understand that and, in my experience, are open to employers sharing their financial statements and modifying their demands to ensure their members keep their jobs.

In the public sector, market discipline does not apply. The government simply runs a deficit. Moreover, the people negotiating on the other side of the unions are directed by politicians whose main goal is to avoid a strike “on their watch.” The politicians simply defer the consequences of their lavish public sector benefits/pensions and the resulting deficits to later years.

Howard Levitt is senior partner of Levitt LLP, employment and labour lawyers. He practises employment law in eight provinces. The most recent of his six books is Law of Dismissal in Canada
 
And the big kicker why they won't be a ban for two years until they get the infrastructure in place as stated by Bill Blair. And why I laugh at all of it, nothing to do with firearms and everything to do with chasing paper. That's why I say you want my firearms, you'll get them BF. You F'N theifs/criminals/gangsters/DB'S. Rob me and you'll get served.

AKA "THE BIG LIE"
ht tps://business.financialpost.com/executive/careers/mp-defined-benefit-pensions-are-one-reason-for-opposition-parties-to-prop-up-a-liberal-minority


The other federal parties can, at any time, depose the Liberal minority government through a non-confidence vote. But they won’t for at least two years. Why? In part, because of parliamentary pensions.

Now that the Liberals are in a minority, the opposition parties control the committees, and Parliament itself, if they work collectively.

They can put before the public the secrets that the Liberals worked so assiduously to hide. Some of the information that former attorney-general Jody Wilson-Raybould and others said they wished to share but were precluded from doing so, could potentially come out. The Liberals can no longer block committee hearings or prevent witnesses from testifying, although they can still invoke cabinet confidentiality and solicitor-client privilege.

Canada Post is right: Defined-benefit pension plans are unaffordable for any employer
If you lie to an employer during hiring, you can be fired. Shouldn’t that apply to Trudeau too?
Liberal moves to legislate work-life balance are voter friendly, but disastrous for business
One might think that the other parties would rush to bring down the Liberal party. After all, they made political mileage over the government’s refusal to release Wilson-Raybould, former Treasury Board president Jane Philpott and others from cabinet confidentiality, despite how anxious witnesses were to tell their stories.

But that was before the election. There are two reasons that they won’t now. The first is that, if the Liberals are totally wiped out by the revelations, the Conservative party will likely get a majority and the NDP and Bloc Quebecois will lose the upper hand in Parliament, with Liberals dependent upon them to enact legislation.

But one should never ignore the impact of a more mundane motivation: pensions.

MPs initially elected in 2015 are not eligible to claim their Parliamentary pension unless they remain in office until at least 2021. This is a defined benefit pension plan, pursuant to the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act, which can be received regardless of interest rates or the market.

Such plans used to be relatively common in large private sector employers but they are so expensive that they drove many companies into insolvency. That is why you scarcely find them today outside of the public sector. An analysis by Frederick Vettese, author of the book, Retirement Income for Life: Getting More without Saving More, predicts that defined benefit plans will be extinct in the private sector by 2026 while continuing to grow in the public sector.



One might think it unfair that Parliamentarians receive pensions the vast majority of Canadian employers cannot afford for their own employees. But, for the same reason public sector unions are loathe to give them up, Parliamentarians are motivated to ensure that they work the requisite number of years to receive them. That is why they are unlikely to drive the Liberals out of office for at least two years.

In my practice, I have found that employees are loathe to leave their jobs before they receive a significant bonus or other potential entitlement. Few MPs are children of privilege or have created significant wealth themselves. So why topple the Liberals and call an election now, before they are guaranteed their pensions?

The traditional private-public sector dichotomy was that public sector employees had better benefits and pensions, enjoyed greater job security, worked less but, in return, earned less. Over the last number of years, that has reversed with public sector workers continuing to enjoy these advantages, particularly the defined benefit pension, but earning more as well.

Why is that? In the private sector, union and non-union alike, market discipline applies. If an employer provides wages that are too high, it goes out of business. Even unions understand that and, in my experience, are open to employers sharing their financial statements and modifying their demands to ensure their members keep their jobs.

In the public sector, market discipline does not apply. The government simply runs a deficit. Moreover, the people negotiating on the other side of the unions are directed by politicians whose main goal is to avoid a strike “on their watch.” The politicians simply defer the consequences of their lavish public sector benefits/pensions and the resulting deficits to later years.

Howard Levitt is senior partner of Levitt LLP, employment and labour lawyers. He practises employment law in eight provinces. The most recent of his six books is Law of Dismissal in Canada


I wonder what this country will look like in 50 years? Too bad I won't be there to see it...or not
 
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