Gun Clubs and restricted guns

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Do you have to be a member of a gun club or a range to own a handgun or a restricted gun in Canada?

Do you also have to be a member of a gun club or a range to own a non-restricted gun in Canada too?
 
It's simpler to belong to a range, to own a resticted, and a must to get an ATT.
You could apply for collector status, but it has it's drawbacks.
 
"Do you have to be a member of a gun club or a range to own a handgun or a restricted gun in Canada?"

No..........but power tripping CFO's may not approve the transfer unless you belong to a range/club or have collector status. This requirement is NOT law but the CFO's policy.

"Do you also have to be a member of a gun club or a range to own a non-restricted gun in Canada too?"

No.........but you still need a valid firearm license.
 
The short answer to your first question is Yes, in most provinces. Longer answer is legally, no, but unless you're willing to challenge the CFO in court (and you'll likely win) you will be required to present a gun club membership before a restricted firearm will be transfered into your name. They ask "What is the purpose of owning this gun?", and the standard answer is "target practice". Well unless you have a membership at a range there's nowhere you could do this. They do not recognize day-passes.

The answer to your second question is simply No. You present your PAL, and take possession of your firearm.
 
Legally you do not need to be a member of a gun club to get a restricted firearm - even if you do not have collector status.
 
PorkNBeans said:
and you would get an ATT how?
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Transporting and using prohibited firearms or restricted firearms

19. (1) An individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms may be authorized to transport a particular prohibited firearm or restricted firearm between two or more specified places for any good and sufficient reason, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing,

(a) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under specified conditions or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29;

(a.1) to provide instructions in the use of firearms as part of a restricted firearms safety course that is approved by the federal Minister; or

(b) if the individual

(i) changes residence,

(ii) wishes to transport the firearm to a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer for registration or disposal in accordance with this Act or Part III of the Criminal Code,

(iii) wishes to transport the firearm for repair, storage, sale, exportation or appraisal, or

(iv) wishes to transport the firearm to a gun show.
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Point to me where it requires that one be a member of a gun club... :)

I have received ATT's in the past for not being a member of a gun club - in relation to restricted firearms.
 
Since this is on topic with the thread; A range that I visit posted a letter saying that all ATT are invalid after the new year if the membership is not renewed. Im sure that this is a ploy to panic those ill-informed to buy a new membership, but would a CFO somehow revoke an ATT if you're no longer a member? (In BC the ATT expiration is 5 years IIRC)
 
Secular said:
Since this is on topic with the thread; A range that I visit posted a letter saying that all ATT are invalid after the new year if the membership is not renewed. Im sure that this is a ploy to panic those ill-informed to buy a new membership, but would a CFO somehow revoke an ATT if you're no longer a member? (In BC the ATT expiration is 5 years IIRC)
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That club is no better than the CFO's who are interpreting, bending and even creating ghost laws to meet their agenda. One isn't required to be a member to have an ATT, nor does a club have the authority to cancel an ATT.
 
Secular said:
Since this is on topic with the thread; A range that I visit posted a letter saying that all ATT are invalid after the new year if the membership is not renewed. Im sure that this is a ploy to panic those ill-informed to buy a new membership, but would a CFO somehow revoke an ATT if you're no longer a member? (In BC the ATT expiration is 5 years IIRC)
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Bogus, you can still traven to and from the club with the att and without a membership, if you are just paying the day fees. Trip up may be if the club on your att is audited and your not a member there the CFO may revoke your att
 
you didn't answer the how?...but in any event...
in layman's terms for you if I will...

19 b) does not apply until you actually acquire the restricted firearm
19 a) you are permitted to transport a restricted firearm to a shooting club range. given that shooting clubs are membership based, in order to prove to the CFO that this is your purpose, you would be asked for your membership info. :)

under sec 28, you may own if you...

(i) to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals, or (good luck getting this)
(ii) for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation; or

but if we're talking general public here, I think what I put was right
 
PorkNBeans said:
you didn't answer the how?...but in any event...
in layman's terms for you if I will...

19 b) does not apply until you actually acquire the restricted firearm
19 a) you are permitted to transport a restricted firearm to a shooting club range. given that shooting clubs are membership based, in order to prove to the CFO that this is your purpose, you would be asked for your membership info. :)

under sec 28, you may own if you...

(i) to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals, or (good luck getting this)
(ii) for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation; or

but if we're talking general public here, I think what I put was right
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Well, you can purchase a firearm without a membership or att. You can always get a STATT to go to a local range if you arnt a member anywhere and pay the day fee. This would still fall under 19a as your still getting the restricted firearm for target practice.... Just paying each time you go to the range and not getting a membership. You just couldnt get a LTATT without a membership. I could se this being the case if you want to constantly shoot at different ranges and dont want to pay a membership for any of them, or if you only shoot a couple of times a year
 
Shaharov said:
Well, you can purchase a firearm without a membership or att. You can always get a STATT to go to a local range if you arnt a member anywhere and pay the day fee. This would still fall under 19a as your still getting the restricted firearm for target practice.... Just paying each time you go to the range and not getting a membership. You just couldnt get a LTATT without a membership. I could se this being the case if you want to constantly shoot at different ranges and dont want to pay a membership for any of them, or if you only shoot a couple of times a year
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Exactly. You ARE NOT legally required to have a membership to go to a range. Porknbeans, (can't type that without getting hungry)... Many people get att's without range memberships. Sometimes the CFO's step out of their bounds, requiring a range membership for purchase or even to issue an ATT, but legally this isn't the case.
 
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