Gun Deal problem

This guy might just be a procrastinator who considers that doing the registration transfer is not a high priority. On the other hand, according to the firearms act, you are breaking the law for having a firearm (either purchased or loaned) without its registration certificate. But seeing that there is an amnesty for non-restricted firearm registration, you should not have any legal problems.

From what you say in your posting, you should have his name and address, etc, and it should not be difficult through Canada 411 to get his telephone number. I would do that and give him a call. People usually answer their phones as compared to answering a PM on GN.

Good luck and my advise is to clear this up and not let it drag on hoping that the registry will disappear.

Duke1

PS. As far as initiating the transfer as the buyer, you would need the PAL # of the seller, his name, and the registration certificate number of the firearm.
 
I've been out all day so couldn't post. Thanks for all the input guys. Some very good thoughts here. I don't want to make waves for the guy. I realize stuff happens. I wiped out his contact info other than one PM. My bad. I've had my PM box filled in the past so now I keep it fairly empty. Going to give him some more time but I think at some point I'm going to have to make the call. If its unregistered it should be no problem. Actually the MO recept should have his info. Oh crap, I'll start digging, I would assume the CFC would think it's kinda strange I don't know where my MO went.
 
NavyCuda said:
I takes under 5 minutes to call the CFC and start a transfer.

He had time to ship but not transfer? Doesn't make sense.
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Agreed!! He did the part that takes the most time. Something does not add up here.

If the sale is on the up and up, and this character could not take 5 min to do his part of the transfer, I hope you indicate it on his trader rating because its not someone I want to deal with.
 
You guys are making away too much of it. A copy of the registration is (should be) either sent electronically ahead of time, or sent with the firearm. The buyer would have (should have) the sellers POL/PAL number and it has been said many times on here, either party can start the registration. What is the problem?
 
I had a similar deal a while ago. bought a gun and seller had a bunch of excuses on why things were going slow. He shipped the gun before the transfer for some reason. After the gun was shipped I had several weeks of excuses on why it hadn't been transfered. I got the CFc involved and they contacted him to do the transfer.
If you are comfortable PM me with their CGN name. I would be interested to see if it was the same person.
 
Not to defend the seller, but for understanding purposes...i bought a gun on here about 2 months ago. first purchase ever from something like this so i had no idea what to expect...it took me close to a month to complete because i work out of town alot and cant really haul my information and a ton of papers on planes and etc. its hard enough to pass customs. i also went on vacation in this time. and if you cant call the CFC during the day, its like a hour wait or better on the phone anytime after 4 ish pm. i did get it resolved and appologised to the seller, but there can be reasons for his lateness. i would say if he doesnt respond in the next week call the CFC and explain the issue....they will know how to look up that gun and instruct on how to proceed from there.
 
superfly64 said:
Not to defend the seller, but for understanding purposes...i bought a gun on here about 2 months ago. first purchase ever from something like this so i had no idea what to expect...it took me close to a month to complete because i work out of town alot and cant really haul my information and a ton of papers on planes and etc. its hard enough to pass customs. i also went on vacation in this time. and if you cant call the CFC during the day, its like a hour wait or better on the phone anytime after 4 ish pm. i did get it resolved and appologised to the seller, but there can be reasons for his lateness. i would say if he doesnt respond in the next week call the CFC and explain the issue....they will know how to look up that gun and instruct on how to proceed from there.
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It is not the responsibility of the buyer to educate you in the process of transfering a firearm. Each individual should take the time to understand the process before undertaking the sale of a firearm. The reality is that it is not overly difficult to work with the CFC or in BC's case the CFO's office and receive timely service.

I didn't have time to call, or they were closed (on a saterday) is a total bs cop out. Pick up your stupid phone, dial 1 800 731-4000, give them the information do your part, hang up. If possible sit in front of your computer screen for the 5 minutes it may take for you slow typers to PM the buyer with some damn information. You have our money, like just keep us in the loop!

In all fairness even though I had read up on the matter I still did manage to get confused with my first transfer(as a buyer).
 
Claybuster said:
Another good reason when doing a gun deal on line to transfer the gun first. I won't do a deal any other way. It ensures that the gun exists and the purchaser is legal. It protects both parties.
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Not sure I follow, if concerned that purchaser is legal then would you not be seller (and know gun exists?). If seller would you not want $ before initiating transfer (and shipping)?
 
lineofsight said:
Not sure I follow, if concerned that purchaser is legal then would you not be seller (and know gun exists?). If seller would you not want $ before initiating transfer (and shipping)?
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If selling I would not ship until I received the money but would want the transfer done first. This ensures that the person buying it is legally entitled to own the gun. If there is no transfer then the deal is off. No money or gun has changed hands.

If buying I want to know the gun exists and is registered. I also am not going to ship money to someone before the transfer takes place as that guarantees that I have some recourse if I'm dealing with someone less than reputable.

Transfer first. If not. No deal.
 
Some guys don't want to do the transfer before the money arrives. I'm O.K. with that. I assumed he'd do the transfer before shipping as then the guns in my name if there's a problem.
H4831, in most deals the seller initiates the trans. and the buyer just calls in with the ref. #.
I guess if I try to start it I'll find out whats up. As many have said, the transfer is the easy part. Shippings the pain.
My MO was sent on June 6 th to give you an idea of the time frame.
 
NavyCuda said:
I didn't have time to call, or they were closed (on a saterday) is a total bs cop out. Pick up your stupid phone, dial 1 800 731-4000, give them the information do your part, hang up.
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This is my peeve here. The days of waiting on the phone for an hour are gone. It only takes 2 minutes to transfer...

I transferred a firearm one time on my cel, on the way to the post office!:D

MTM said:
My MO was sent on June 6 th to give you an idea of the time frame.
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So next week is the 2 month mark. The biggest thing here is you can't trade or sell this one as its in limbo. Not saying you want to do that, but lots of guys buy, shoot, and sell a few days later...
 
Claybuster said:
If selling I would not ship until I received the money but would want the transfer done first.

I also am not going to ship money to someone before the transfer takes place as that guarantees that I have some recourse if I'm dealing with someone less than reputable.

Transfer first. If not. No deal.
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The problem I see:
If selling - money, transfer ship.
If buying - transfer, money, ship.

Could not do a deal with yourself then.

Buying have generally send money before transfer & shipping.
Selling have generally received money, transferred, shipped.
 
MTM said:
Some guys don't want to do the transfer before the money arrives. I'm O.K. with that. I assumed he'd do the transfer before shipping as then the guns in my name if there's a problem.
H4831, in most deals the seller initiates the trans. and the buyer just calls in with the ref. #.
I guess if I try to start it I'll find out whats up. As many have said, the transfer is the easy part. Shippings the pain.
My MO was sent on June 6 th to give you an idea of the time frame.
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As I said, either party can, commonly does, start the transfer. In this case it is the buyer who is concerned about the seller not starting to register. Thus, the buyer can simply start the register.
 
No plans to sell yet, although it does shoot a little high. Actually just heard from him. Glad I was patient. Who's this rgv smarta*s anyway?
 
Shipping a gun to someone who may or may not be able to own it is some risky stuff.
I suggest you do a drive by ##!!*ing and leave it behind. :D
 
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