Gun Dog

I hunt grouse and woodcock with mine. She knows how to change gears. Check out Jay's and Henry's pooches in http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506163 this thread.

That was pretty interesting, thanks Looch.

When I google Pudelpointer breeders in AB, I get no where. Are these difficult dogs to find? I am not in any rush, I figure it woudl be smart to wait until spring or late winter now. That way I could start training the pup right away rather than have to wait out winter and start with a 6 month old dog..
 
I don't know much about the Pudelpointer. I did visit Steve Brodeur at Duchasseur - he breeds griffons but is in partnership with Fin Renard Pudelpointers. Very nice dogs, and I almost went with one.

I hear the Cedarwoods name being tossed around a lot.

Maybe get in contact with someone from the Wild Rose NAVHDA chapter.
 
Contact your local pointing dog club and go observe a field trial. You will learn quickly what sort of dog you would like. I had my heart set on a Setter but after watching them I'd never own one.

I like German Short Haired Pointers and Springers, would love to have one of each to run together.

Everyone will recommend their favorite dog breed.
 
Spaniels. They are born with aggressive instinct to find birds, humans just teach them to bring the birds back. There are lots of dog clubs in Alberta who can recommend quality breeders, as not all dogs come from quality field stock. If you've never trained a dog before, join a club for the first year and attend the puppy training and retrieving lessons. Dog owners often need more lessons than the dog. Club memberships can be between 50 and 100 bucks, and they often gather weekly for lessons and trials.

Springer and Brittany spaniels make great house dogs, and only poorly bred dogs will ever bite or show their teeth to humans and more importantly , children. When at home, they are part of the furniture accessories, much like pillows, but out hunting, they are all business. When you invest into a good quality field dog, you are investing in a hunting partner that will never; let you down, be late, have a hang over, sleep in, nor cancel a hunting trip because someone's Mother is coming for a visit.



These Pups are no longer with me, but put birds onto the table for over a dozen years.

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Could not have put it better myself. I've owned and hunted over Springers for years and they are not only great hunting dogs but faithful companions as well. All hunting dogs are fun to hunt behind but I have a special spot in my heart for Springers. Not only are they a great upland dog but can also be used on early season waterfowl. Whatever breed you choose it will take lots of tyraining and patience. Good Luck
 
I am very pleased with my Brittany Spaniel. Great companionship, I can't imagine hunting on my own, for that reason I stick to mostly bird hunting.
 
This is Voodoo, he has been a great housedog even though we have let him think he is a lapdog. My constant companion and upland hunting partner, I hunted upland for 2 decades without a dog and now it would seem like a crime without him.

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Nice looking dog, He looks so proud of himself in the third photo lol.:)
 
I don't know much about the Pudelpointer. I did visit Steve Brodeur at Duchasseur - he breeds griffons but is in partnership with Fin Renard Pudelpointers. Very nice dogs, and I almost went with one.

I hear the Cedarwoods name being tossed around a lot.

Maybe get in contact with someone from the .

So, a friendly fella from the Wild Rose NAVHDA chapter, just advised me to stay away from the short haired varieties. He believes a long haired dog will tolerate the winter much better.

That does make sense. Do wire hairs count as long hairs? Anybody argee with him?

Other than a Munsterlander, what dogs are long haired and relativelt easy to get?
 
Yes I agree,. Wire hairs have a finer haired.. wool growth under the guard hair to keep them much warmer in cold water and winter conditions.

I would sooner purchase a Drathar that wasnt so easy to get.:cool:

Please dont bastardise the breed by buying some back yard breeders dog.
 
research the breeder, make sure they're CKC certified. Research the ##### and sire. It's easier to choose the parents then the pup. Get everything in writing. Make sure they get a vet check before you get them and make sure they have some form of a health guarantee.
 
Yes I agree,. Wire hairs have a finer haired.. wool growth under the guard hair to keep them much warmer in cold water and winter conditions.

I would sooner purchase a Drathar that wasnt so easy to get.:cool:

Please dont bastardise the breed by buying some back yard breeders dog.

I know the Drathar is a fine dog, but are they not a $1200 dog? By the time I get it here, likely a $1500 dog. That seems a lot for a dog.
 
I paid 1500 for my toller. Think of it as a 10 - 15 year investment. So that's $150 over 10 years or $100 over 15. That's what a hunting dog is. An investment of your time, money, love and affection. It'll be worth every penny in the end.
 
So, a friendly fella from the Wild Rose NAVHDA chapter, just advised me to stay away from the short haired varieties. He believes a long haired dog will tolerate the winter much better.

That does make sense. Do wire hairs count as long hairs? Anybody argee with him?

Other than a Munsterlander, what dogs are long haired and relativelt easy to get?

My DD was $1000 + crate + shipping. Around $1250 all in. I'd do it again in heartbeat and then some.

I've never had issues with my GSP's in cold weather. What the problem was for me was their torn-up undercarriages after hunting through the particularly thorny underbrush. In fact, Blaine Carter, a well-known breeder and NAVHDA judge, used to team up two of his GSP's and compete - successfully - in skijoring competitions. It would be more of a concern for late season waterfowl, but you've already mentioned that you're not doing that. I would even go as far to say that the long or wire coated dogs would fair much worse in hot, early season weather than a short-haired dog in the cold. This is not a problem for me because I fair pretty badly in the heat, too.

Draht; pudelpointer; griffon; setter; brittany; munsterlander (large and small); french spaniel; kurzhaar (GSP); langhaar; cesky fousek - the list goes on. I will second Longwalker's recommendation for Koshyk's book. I am already set in my DD ways but from what I understand, the photography alone is worth the somewhat steep price. I'll be adding it to my Christmas wish list.
 
Get a Dog with a name you can pronounce.

Also if you think 1500$ is expensive for a dog then I would avoid getting one at all. On top of that 1500$ you have food, vet bills and the time required. For the next 10-15 years. And you will probably not get 15 years of hunting out of your furry friend either.

I was literally cash in hand to buy a German Shorthaired pointer earlier this year, then I took a frank look at my finances and my work and school obligations and decided to wait a few more years.
 
Its cheaper in the end to buy a field trial washout 2 or three year old. training is complete the dog will outperform your abilities as a handler and if your worried about the puppy bond thing don't. once you bring a kennel dog into the home and treat it like family they bond to you and stick to your heels like s**t

Where would one find a pre-trained kennel dog? (I'm in MB)

As a single Dad, I would need a pre-trained dog that could be left alone while I'm at work.

Would it be fair to leave a dog alone for the day? I think that's an improvement over being in a kennel 24-7.

My 8 year old boy would go apesh#t to have a dog, and I would improve my Grouse hunting success by, um, 100% :)

(end Hijack):p
 
Get a Dog with a name you can pronounce.

Also if you think 1500$ is expensive for a dog then I would avoid getting one at all. On top of that 1500$ you have food, vet bills and the time required. For the next 10-15 years. And you will probably not get 15 years of hunting out of your furry friend either.

I was literally cash in hand to buy a German Shorthaired pointer earlier this year, then I took a frank look at my finances and my work and school obligations and decided to wait a few more years.

I already have two big purebred dogs that both eat more than this one ever will, the cost of owning a dog is not a big factor, nor is the time.

My point is, a director of Wild Rose NAVHDA chapter told me I could get an excellent field dog for $800 to $1000 and that his dog was $825. The more research I do, the more it looks like lineage and rarity are big factors in price. And I don't think I want to pay extra for that.
 
Where would one find a pre-trained kennel dog? (I'm in MB)

As a single Dad, I would need a pre-trained dog that could be left alone while I'm at work.

Would it be fair to leave a dog alone for the day? I think that's an improvement over being in a kennel 24-7.

My 8 year old boy would go apesh#t to have a dog, and I would improve my Grouse hunting success by, um, 100% :)

(end Hijack):p

They are definitely pout there, but SJEMAC raises a good point about that on page 1.
 
My DD was $1000 + crate + shipping. Around $1250 all in. I'd do it again in heartbeat and then some.

I've never had issues with my GSP's in cold weather. What the problem was for me was their torn-up undercarriages after hunting through the particularly thorny underbrush. In fact, Blaine Carter, a well-known breeder and NAVHDA judge, used to team up two of his GSP's and compete - successfully - in skijoring competitions. It would be more of a concern for late season waterfowl, but you've already mentioned that you're not doing that. I would even go as far to say that the long or wire coated dogs would fair much worse in hot, early season weather than a short-haired dog in the cold. This is not a problem for me because I fair pretty badly in the heat, too.

Draht; pudelpointer; griffon; setter; brittany; munsterlander (large and small); french spaniel; kurzhaar (GSP); langhaar; cesky fousek - the list goes on. I will second Longwalker's recommendation for Koshyk's book. I am already set in my DD ways but from what I understand, the photography alone is worth the somewhat steep price. I'll be adding it to my Christmas wish list.

I hear you, but summer here is short and Jan and Feb rarely see better than -20. Does that change your opinion?

I woudl really like the dog to be outside most of the day with my other dogs, winter as well.
 
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