Over the last week, I have had two more people that can't hit most targets from the high house, so I set up an empty clays box, and had each one fire a couple of shots at it. In both cases, the pattern was way left of center, which explains the issue. It was about a year ago that another member had the same issue, and purchased a new shotgun with an adjustable comb, which he shot a clean round with the first day he shot it. Of the two this week, one person accepts that this is his issue, and is deciding on whether to purchase a new gun, or modify his existing gun. The other person saw the issue, but will not consider modifying his gun, or purchasing a new gun, so he likely will carry on missing most high house targets as he has done for the past year. It's too bad so many people just don't understand or accept how important gun fit is.
Gun Fit
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Falconflyer
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I have a gunsmith friend who does adjustable combs and recoil pads as well as adjusting them to fit the shooter... he literally has done hundreds of them and I don't know a single person who thought it wasn't worth the money.
I suggested an adjustable comb, but one guy won't even consider modifying his gun, and he won't consider buying another gun either. He has been shooting with us for over a year, he still shoots all targets as singles, and he has made virually no improvement. His excuse has always been, and still is, that he just needs more time. He is so closed minded, that it was hard to even convince him to even pattern his gun.
The other fellow is open minded, and is considering the alternatives .
The other fellow is open minded, and is considering the alternatives .
Falconflyer
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Some people just aren't going to take advice from anyone... let him alone to shoot ####ty scores in singles then.
Which is why I had these people actually pattern their shotguns, so they could see for themselves. But some people just don't care, even if they can see the issue. But some people do want to improve, and seeing the issue, has helped them to change and improve. And it is great to see someone realize their issue, and improve their shooting. We are a small club, so I don't get to hand out many 25 straight patches, let alone 50,75, or 100 patches, but it is enjoyable , when the opportunity arises.
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Florin is a top notch shooter, coach and trainer. i enjoyed my time with him few years ago.
Redsoilreaper
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Give Uxbridge Clays a call ( Wednesdays or Sundays), tell who ever answers that you'd like a lesson but ask for one of the instructors to contact you and then explain to the instructor what you're looking for. The individual who answers/works the front desk may have no clue as to gun fit etc etc.
I have a gun fit scheduled in a few months from now but currently only have a field SXP with no adjustability. How will that work for my fitting?
Was looking at a Mossberg gold reserve super sport with adjustable butt & comb but having a hard time finding and saving up for one in this time frame. Wondering if I should even bother with finding a new shotgun with adjustability at this point. Just a newbie with under a year under my belt so far.
Was looking at a Mossberg gold reserve super sport with adjustable butt & comb but having a hard time finding and saving up for one in this time frame. Wondering if I should even bother with finding a new shotgun with adjustability at this point. Just a newbie with under a year under my belt so far.
My new shotgun has tapered shims for the buttstock, pretty common now. But what I wondered about was my starting point, or more precisely , my sight picture after I mounted the shotgun with my eyes closed, then opened them. So I asked on a shotgun forum. A rifle shooter can scrunch around until they find the crosshairs, then they are good to go. It stands to reason, easier it is to get a consistent head placement with a shotgun, the better you will shoot. Ergonomics is not rocket science or even black magic.
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For myself I mount the gun bringing it into my shoulder and up into my cheek at the same time without having to tilt or move my head to the stock. Once I can consistently do that then I am looking flat down the rib with the beads aligned centred and stacked in a figure 8 and usually am good to go.
If I am seeing a bunch of the top of the rib with a gap between the beads my stock is too high and conversely if the beads come together as one or even worse, the top of the mid-bead sits higher than the bead at the muzzle then I'm looking through the back of the receiver and my stock is too low. If the beads do not align centred left to right or vice-versa then I need to adjust the cast. I highly recommend all shotgun shooters who would like their shotgun to fit properly purchase Oswald's The Stock Fitters Bible. It is extremely informative and will give you the knowledge to understand gun fit.
I am almost the same, except I like the rib pretty much flat, to the point that the small center bead actually overlaps the bottom of the bead at the muzzle. I tend to prefer more drop at comb than most shooters.
Spank, funny that fiqure 8 was mentioned by one of the responders. Another said he didn't believe in the closed eye test as he never shot with eyes closed . I think he was being internet argumentative, but after I thought about that one, I had to smile. When I first tried the shot gun with factory shims I saw the left side of the barrel and had to really press my check into the comb.
After doing the shims, I took the shotgun to the range and did a couple of snap shots at the patterning board. I shot center but high. I blame that on a lazy left arm. It is after all in it's 70s. I'm just learning to shot a shotgun,BTW. I'll try to get that left arm to keep up.
After doing the shims, I took the shotgun to the range and did a couple of snap shots at the patterning board. I shot center but high. I blame that on a lazy left arm. It is after all in it's 70s. I'm just learning to shot a shotgun,BTW. I'll try to get that left arm to keep up.
I find the 725 Trap to be fairly flat-shooting.
The classic figure 8 (no gap) requires me to almost cover the target.
If I want to be able to ‘float’ the target, I have to leave a gap between the beads, and see some of the rib.
Of course, all this is still just to know my mount is consistent and I’m not aiming the gun with the beads.
The classic figure 8 (no gap) requires me to almost cover the target.
If I want to be able to ‘float’ the target, I have to leave a gap between the beads, and see some of the rib.
Of course, all this is still just to know my mount is consistent and I’m not aiming the gun with the beads.
