Gun for coyote and, occasionally, deer as well in S Ontario

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Hi,

I would like to use a .270 WSM gun for coyote hunting in areas like Brant, Haldimand, Halton, Essex (all in S Ontario). Occasionally I would like to be able to use the same gun (but with more grain ammo) for deer as well.

Ontario Hunting Regulations says: "A person hunting small game may not carry or use a rifle of greater calibre than a .275-calibre rifle, except a
muzzle-loading gun, in the geograhic areas of of Brant,
Chatham-Kent, Durham, Elgin, Essex, Haldimand, Halton,
Hamilton, Huron, Lambton, Middlesex, Niagara, Norfolk,
Northumberland, Oxford, Peel, Perth, Toronto, Waterloo,
Wellington or York."


1. Is a .270 WSM gun legal for small game in those regions (although the gun is labelled as .270 WSM it's bullet diameter is actually .277 inches). I asked this first question in the "legal" section and received some contradictory answers, therefore I would need clarification here where more hunters comment.

2. Would this be a good choice for coyote (mainly) and deer?

Thank you!
 
Alot of people use a .223 .243 for Yotes around our neck of the woods a .270 is a great deer gun although I have heard if you use as a main yote gun it may be a little much as you should be keeping their pelt.

Someone should know more.
 
Not many places down here where you'd even need the range of a 270wsm
.223 will be cheaper to practice with, and more than enough for a yote
And like fuse said ML and shotgun for deer in these parts
 
Not really sure the difference between 270 and 270wsm is worth the extra cost of the gun and ammo.

270 is legal for southern ontario small game and is the best all round rifle for multi use in Ontario.
 
I think the .275 means if you are out hunting small game during the deer, mouse, bear seasons and don't have a permit for the animal in season, you are in trouble.

I may be wrong. Best to check with your local MNR before you trust anyone's answer. I have seen for myself that people with the best intentions have the wrong information.

That said, the 270 will handle both your yote and deer hunting needs. A little too much for yotes but each to their own. My yote guns are .223 and 6.5x55.
 
I think the .275 means if you are out hunting small game during the deer, mouse, bear seasons and don't have a permit for the animal in season, you are in trouble.

I may be wrong. Best to check with your local MNR before you trust anyone's answer. I have seen for myself that people with the best intentions have the wrong information.

That said, the 270 will handle both your yote and deer hunting needs. A little too much for yotes but each to their own. My yote guns are .223 and 6.5x55.

I think the areas that the original poster is speaking of actually has caliber restrictions even when deer hunting.
 
to the op, there is a twin to this thread on right now. funny how the same things show up at the same time. the .275 in the legislation is precedded by "caliber known as" meaning as you guessed 270 is fine as it is the known caliber not the bullet size they go by.

That being said .223, .243, 220 swift(what i use), 22-250 are killer for em and legal on deer, but I wouldn't use any of the 22's on deer with out handloading for bullets better suited for deer and a self imposed range limit. If doing double duty I would buy a 270 or perhaps 243 I have shot or been present to numerous coyotes shot with either and both handle deer. as for the less common calibers guys mentioned I would go with something cheap and availiable as shooting yotes at distance is a challenge and really requires shooting reguarly in the field, so ammo cost being low as possible is a premium(my one regret on my swift is the cost of ammo)

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699467

the thread above has a listing of counties which have a caliber ban(for hunting target shooting is fine). to my knowledge all counties with a caliber ban are also shotgun/muzzle only for deer. the 275 limit is year round regardless of season as in you have no Reason to hunt with a larger caliber as there is no large game rifle season in these area's. although on a side note black bear are moving back into some of these area's it will be intersting to see if a rifle hunt for them comes in.

as for small game hunting in deer season check your regs\call but I believe having anything bigger then 22lr or #4 shot(or some such thing) while out in the bush/field and you had better have a liscence. I guess you could argue down south as there is no rifle season you could only be yote hunting, but I wouldn't:(
 
So what's the premise on having a caliber restriction? I can understand shotgun/bow only in some areas but caliber? Not meaning to hijack the thread but was just curious.

Oh, and I'd say, if you're not planning on worrying about the hides, go with the 270wsm. Can reach out and touch them yotes and leaves a nice big exit hole! Good target practice if it's going to be your main gun for hunting too. Better then punching holes in paper since you get to see how your bullets work on flesh.
 
who knows legislation for the sake of it. as said above I can shoot 50 bmg all day just not hunt with it. why you need to be told to use a 223 on a yote vs a 30.06 is beyond me. safe shooting is safe shooting. Being in the line of fire of a idiot with a 270 vs 30.06 dosn't make me sleep better at night .:mad:

but then its not us the law is meant to make feel better and warmer and fuzzier is it:HR:
 
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