Gun for IPSC classic division

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I'd like to try shooting classic this year, but I don't know much about 1911's. If you were buying a new gun with classic division in mind, what would you choose? What should I look for in a competition 1911? I haven't set a budget yet, cause I'm not sure what I should be looking for, but figure 2k and under. All suggestions welcome. I've tried googling and searching, but I don't seem up to the task today.

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I'd go with a Simple 9mm 1911. Take a pick of 1911 as long as they have no rails or major farlkes.
STI Trojan or Ranger. Or save some cash and pick up a SAM 1911 in 9mm. Buy extra ammo.
One of the Classic shooters in BC uses 1911 and he does very well with it.
 
STI Trojan. Great platform to build upon.

I'd suggest you go .40 and shoot Major. Very few matches are balanced enough where shooting minor is a consideration. If you aren't planning on being super competitive, then go 9mm. A 1911 in 9mm is my favourite gun to shoot.
 
The last IPSC world shoot, the winner in classic shot minor. (granted he felt he should have shot major)
Most of the stages in Canada favour 10 round mags.
Major, greater chance of having to do a standing reload and adding seconds to your stage time.

I don't think minor is really the disadvantage people make it out to be.
Also, A's are 5 points any way you look at it.

And 9mm is cheaper.
 
pauls said:
The last IPSC world shoot, the winner in classic shot minor. (granted he felt he should have shot major)
Most of the stages in Canada favour 10 round mags.
Major, greater chance of having to do a standing reload and adding seconds to your stage time.

I don't think minor is really the disadvantage people make it out to be.
Also, A's are 5 points any way you look at it.

And 9mm is cheaper.
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The question really revolves around how many C's you shoot, not how many A's.

Hit factor is a measurement of points per second. With minor (unless you are shooting all A's) you are generating fewer points per second as compared to major. if you are shooting minor you can only shoot half as many C's as somebody shooting major - and you must do it in the same time.

There are very few stages where 8 rounds forces you into a situation where it is a significant disadvantage as compared to 10. The notable exceptions are:

1) 10 & 11 round stages (and only if there is minimal movement)
2) lots of steel (cause there's no Charlie on steel)
3) 9 round ports in the middle of a stage (and these are rare)
4) Stages where a 10 round plan yields a significant advantage over the 8 round plan - also rare.

I've shot Classic major in 47 L2 or higher IPSC matches and minor in 11 (I started out shooting minor and quickly switched to major). The only time I thought that minor *might* be an advantage was the 2015 Alberta Provincials.
 
I Love my STI Trojan. It is in 40S&W.. Get ahold of Freedom Ventures and Sean can help you out. He is down in your neck of the woods. He will be able to help steer you in the right direction. Very knowledgable in the STI's..

Good Luck!!
 
Springfield Range Officer, 45 or 9mm your choice. a little bit cheaper than the Trojans. Forged Frame and Slide, Match Stainless steel bbl, ramp and fully suppoerted. of course just any other gun from the factory and mass produce, a little tuning ( trigger job) would be nice. It uses the same frame slide and bbl as their high end models. the finish is the basic parkerized, not an ambi, but comes with beavertail grip safety and adjustable sight. I have one right now and shoots accurately and reliable with all the bullet style Ive used ( jhp, flat point and RN). I will not say its better than the Trojan same is true the other way. TGO shoots with it, it must be good, lol
 
STI Trojan in 9mm is what I use. I like having the extra two rounds, less recoil and 9 is less expensive to shoot but that is just me. The only very minor downside I have found with the Trojan is the finish wears off rather quickly (holster wear). Unless things have changed with the newer STI's. I may get mine hard chromed soon.
 
I love my sti trojan 40
What i love about classic, compared to production, you can spend as much money as you like as long as it resembles a 1911 and has no slide lightning. My 1400$ trojan gradually became a 3000$ venture.
I'm not a better shooter because of it, but my 1911 shoots damn better than me.
 
I have shot major (45acp) in classic the past 3 years and am considering switching to 9mm. I shoot faster with 9mm and the 8 rounds has been a factor in some stages/matches. Mostly I am just getting tired of chasing my brass around at matches. Plus my son is shooting a 9mm Trojan so It would simplify reloading only one caliber. I am in it more for fun though. If you have designs only being best in your club/province/country the general consensus is that you should be shooting major.

Since you asked about guns I would concur that a Spartan or Trojan are good choices. I have been using a Sig target which I feel has been great value for the money also if you are ok with the look of an external extractor.
 
skoal said:
Becouse you'll shoot minor and in classic you'll be at a disadvantage more so then production.
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It is a total anecdotal evidence, but recent MIC L3 match at Montreal was won with a minor classic gun. First two major were 3rd and 5th places.
 
Classic major vs minor is "lndians and arrows". Personally I only bring 40 to the pow-wow.

The more my competition shoots minor, the happier I am.

-Ivan-
 
Try searching the last world shoot classic results, maybe you can get some ideas what the grand masters used,
 
ffgats said:
Try searching the last world shoot classic results, maybe you can get some ideas what the grand masters used,
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I'll save you the search - they used the guns that the gun company paid them to use... better to look at what regular people that do well use - like the Canadian Championships.
 
that is my point, those on the top 3 or maybe 5 can shoot any gun and still end up on top . its the Man Behind The Gun, lol
 
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