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I just bought a 22 LR semi auto. Mossberg lakefield autoloader mark 3.

I have 6 shot clip that came with it. Now , when after i fire the first shot , the second will either enter the chamber but the bolt wont be cocked , or cartridge will jam in between chamber and bolt(before being fired). This happens to just about every cartridge , they will jam , or bolt just wont ####. I just cleaned the whole firearm from A to Z and oiled it. It did the exact same thing before I cleaned it also. I'm just wondering what could be wrong? I hope it's just a bent clip :(. Please help out!

shayne
 
I had a 597 that just wouldn't feed the white box winchester stuff! Everything else ran pretty well! Some ammo is longer than others or not sized as well! I'd try another box of ammo before dickin with the mag or gun that's all I'm sayin!
 
mlehtovaara said:
I had a 597 that just wouldn't feed the white box winchester stuff! Everything else ran pretty well! Some ammo is longer than others or not sized as well! I'd try another box of ammo before dickin with the mag or gun that's all I'm sayin!
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any suggestions? I dont want to pay 10$ for 50 bullets. I usually always get the value packs , 333 for 15$ or 525 for 30$ , i want to keep it a cheap target gun.
 
There are plenty of bulk packs running in the same price range! Just buy a couple 50 packs and try them all see which feed and print better groups! You should be doing this anyways for a "target" gun! Every 22 is gonna like 1 ammo more than another. Its like load developement for a precision rifle just you are not loading the ammo yourself. First thing I ever do with any rifle is sit down with at least 5 different kinds of ammo and see which performs the best. Reliability is first then after you find a couple brands that are reliable shoot some 5 - 10 shot groups at your preferred range and see which average smaller groups! Just remeber to keep the barrel clean while doing this.
 
mlehtovaara said:
There are plenty of bulk packs running in the same price range! Just buy a couple 50 packs and try them all see which feed and print better groups! You should be doing this anyways for a "target" gun! Every 22 is gonna like 1 ammo more than another. Its like load developement for a precision rifle just you are not loading the ammo yourself. First thing I ever do with any rifle is sit down with at least 5 different kinds of ammo and see which performs the best. Reliability is first then after you find a couple brands that are reliable shoot some 5 - 10 shot groups at your preferred range and see which average smaller groups! Just remeber to keep the barrel clean while doing this.
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there's only 2 places where I can buy ammo here ,... Wal-Mart and Canadian tire haha. I might be litterally screwed
 
Not sure if your Lakefield is the same as the '64 (cooey64B, lakefield 64b and, currently, savage64) but, these tips work for most semi .22's

I adore my '64s but, finding the right flavour of ammo to feed them was the trick.
(Federals, CCI's good, winchester dynapoints bad for me, remmington truncated opints, bad for me) It seems that the "traditional rounded ball" is best for feeding.

Also, completely disassemble it. Clean very thoroughly (I use brake cleaner) and reassmble WITHOUT lubrication. Try running it "dry" for a spell. See if, with CCI's (and only 3 rounds in your mag) it'ff eat and feed after that. Sometimes a semi .22 gets "gunked up" and your symptoms will be demonstrated.

If you find it works better lubed, use a teflon lube...it doesn't seem to gather crud the same way the others do..
 
just tried 6 different brand of ammo , high velocity and reg. All are soft point , NO hallow points used. Still works like crap. I even tried remington thunderbolts. Nothing works , gun still jams , sometimes it doesn't #### after a shot , sometimes it cocks and fire pin come but doesn't make cartridge go off. I have no idea what could be wrong , this is very frustrating....
 
...does your's have a "flip down" front handle?

...just trying to "dial in"...

One thing you could check is your trigger/sear fit....(careful with any adjustments...this can make it "unstable" and let all 6 go very quickly)
Also, double check (just cycling manually) that your clip/mag is seated properly.

...I'm away from some refernce material for now but, will check back

...one other thing, try finding winnipegtoymaker (member here on CGN). I've learned enough .22 semi "trivia" from that source that I'll probably get a bill for tuition!!!
 
Just my 2 cents:
Do a complete tear downs and aggressive cleaning with solvents on the bolt areas. As this is an older model, you may have excess powder fouling on the outside bolt area that slides within the action. If you have excessive fouling, quite often the inertia from the shot of the rimfire will not be enough to push the bolt back to a) completely reset the trigger mechanism and b)In some cases the bolt will just go back far enough and grab another shell, but fail to 'reset' the firing mechanism. Camster is right as you may want to try re-assembly without lubrication.
The fact that you tried the stingers and the gun failed to re-#### leads me to believe that it is just fouled in the action.
Best of luck to you. I hope you can get this Canadian Sweetheart back it tip top shape.
 
Is the trigger disconnect mechanism working correctly? There are some transfer bars and springs inside that trigger assembly, which could also be gunked up and causing the bolt to not come back freely. Give it a good solvent soak and blast it out with air if you can.
 
One last thought...

Are there any "add-ons" on this rifle? One thing I recently helped a buddy with...

He had a "funky bolt" issue....(NOT a mark III) he had the wrong screws holding his trigger assembly...these were too long and, "bound" the bolt from moving freely. The obvious indicator? Score marks on the bolt.

If you're doing another complete teardown (just for kicks...) :

Check the bolt for score marks or, wearing on any surface that it moves through/over/across...

Leave the firing pin out (for now)

Remove trigger assemby and, any other "screwed on" pieces (scope mount? check those screws too..). If you can re assemble with out the trigger assembly, do so THEN try to hand-cycle the bolt. See if it ejects and feeds that way. Then re-attach trigger group and, manually cycle again. Check your sear and, trigger for wear also.

...I'm thinking even the fussiest of eaters would work with 1 out of 6 different flavours!
 
camster said:
...does your's have a "flip down" front handle?

...just trying to "dial in"...

One thing you could check is your trigger/sear fit....(careful with any adjustments...this can make it "unstable" and let all 6 go very quickly)
Also, double check (just cycling manually) that your clip/mag is seated properly.

...I'm away from some refernce material for now but, will check back

...one other thing, try finding winnipegtoymaker (member here on CGN). I've learned enough .22 semi "trivia" from that source that I'll probably get a bill for tuition!!!
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no there is no front handle
 
camster said:
One last thought...

Are there any "add-ons" on this rifle? One thing I recently helped a buddy with...

He had a "funky bolt" issue....(NOT a mark III) he had the wrong screws holding his trigger assembly...these were too long and, "bound" the bolt from moving freely. The obvious indicator? Score marks on the bolt.

If you're doing another complete teardown (just for kicks...) :

Check the bolt for score marks or, wearing on any surface that it moves through/over/across...

Leave the firing pin out (for now)

Remove trigger assemby and, any other "screwed on" pieces (scope mount? check those screws too..). If you can re assemble with out the trigger assembly, do so THEN try to hand-cycle the bolt. See if it ejects and feeds that way. Then re-attach trigger group and, manually cycle again. Check your sear and, trigger for wear also.

...I'm thinking even the fussiest of eaters would work with 1 out of 6 different flavours!
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everything seems to be original i beleive ,

thanks!
shayne
 
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