Gun storage

Leave a #### and gun mag laying around like juggs or amateur fisting, and guns and ammo or shooting times, especially when your parents have guests. Tell them that you masterbate to both, then gauge their reaction:eek: Hey if you can't get your way, might as well have fun in the process, maybe dad will ask to borrow said magazines:p
 
my man this is how you have to go about it........


FIRST prepare your safety:

Buy a gun safe
convert a closet or room for your guns and put a lock on it
Ammo safe
buy trigger locks

once you have done these things your parents will feel safer and might just let you buy what you want.
 
I think that waiting until you are in a position to make your own decisions about matters is the best route. First you honour your parent's wishes and respect their well earned right to have and live by a set of values they embrace. You would expect no less from them right? Second, patience pretty much always pays off. You have identified several variables that you are considering; living at home or in your own place, going to university vs working, owning a gun now or later.

Nobody here can help you figure out your priorities. Pretty much everyone can offer an opinion though, and they are worth every penny you spend on them.
 
Money is goig to be your biggest problem. Having a license is one thing but ammo is another. Ubless its a .22 then I dont see what your parents are worried about. On the kind of budget you are mentioning Id wait until you can actually enjoy this hobby. It takes lots of money. I have had a license for just over a year and:

Memberships at 2 clubs - $600(year)

Currently own:
.308 Savage 11 - $500
Maverick 88 - $250
Cooey 600 - $100
Glock 17 - $650
Ruger Redhawk - $750
Bushmaster 9mm AR - $1200

Since Sold:
Ruger SR9 - $500
Ruger GP100 - $500
CZ Kadet - $800
Norc 1911 - $350
CZ 858 - $700

Now ammo is a totally different story. I reload but still prolly spend $50 dollars a month on components at least. Prolly closer to $100 becasue I dont reload shotgun shells and .308. Reloading setup was about $400 bucks on top of that.

Dont think because you can get a couple guns cheap that that will satisfy you. You will be surprised at what happens when you get involved in this hobby.

AND THE EE IS A MONEYPIT!!!!!!! I suggest you don't even apply. Save yourself the money. At least till you are making some cash.
 
I love my guns, don't get me wrong...but you should be saving your money to move out, not to buy guns. It is 100% their right to say no to guns in their house, just like it is 100% my right to say yes to them in mine. You have to set priorities. It takes a while to get your license anyhow. So go for your license and you have several months to find a job and an apartment in the mean time. Waiting 5 years from 19 sounds like 24 to me...don't do that to your poor parents!

Good luck!
 
At the end of the day, it's thier house. You live under thier roof, so you live by thier rules. If they don't want a gun in the house, don't bring one home. If they are telling you they don't want you to own one period, you have other problems.

Are you still in school? Are you working? Are you actively working towards your eventual independance?

While your parents might be anti-gun, at your age they could just as easily be point where they are actively defining your limits. If you push, be prepared to be pushed back.
 
Depending on the chances on getting booted from the house, just force them to accept it lol. Buy the gun bring it home and suffer for 2 weeks of yelling, then it will blow over and you're fine.
 
At the end of the day, it's thier house. You live under thier roof, so you live by thier rules. If they don't want a gun in the house, don't bring one home. If they are telling you they don't want you to own one period, you have other problems.

Well said. There's lots of things I won't have in my house, and I have the right to make that decision, your parents have the same right. When it's your house, walk around naked carrying a Glock (it's fun), but until you're out of their house, you're stuck dude. Buy a non-restricted 22lr rifle, keep it at a licensed buddies home. That's the best you're going to do.

If you can't afford to be on your own, a 22lr is the only gun you can afford to shoot.
 
i had the same issue, they were ok with it at first, but after i got my second gun they went crazy. Even the fact I carry a gun at work didnt help. But as others have said, live by their rules of you cant come to an understanding
 
Move out. Celebrate by having a cheerleader over. Invite the whole squad.

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Having your own place is AWESOME!

ya what he said....except that one in the top left.:D just kidding, they can all come over and play with my guns lol
 
I was able to convince my liberal minded parents that having two guns in the home can be a good thing as long as your responsible with storing them (so it can be done). It took a long time to get them to see the light, but it is possible. I was also pretty confident that they wouldn't kick me out. Start by getting your PAL and RPAL. It takes a long time and about $300 when you factor in the safety courses and processing fee and you need 2 reliable references. My dad was actually quite happy when he got a 357 magnum for Christmas last year. :)
 
1. It's their house, their rules.
2. If you can barely afford the PAL you won't be able to afford to shoot.
3. Save your money for a deposit on your own place where you can be the boss.
4. If you don't like number 3, then refer back to number 1.
 
I agree that guns are a money pit, but... it's your money! I recommend getting a .22 to start, you'll be able to afford to shoot a lot more.

As for parents, I'd try to figure out what it is they don't like about guns, and try to get a discussion going. Often people, when they feel they have been able to make their point and have been heard and understood, are willing to compromise in some fashion.

Another idea, show them pictures of an AR or belt fed machine gun or something, and say this is what you want. After a couple of days of that, comprimise with whatever hunting rifle you wanted in the first place, preferably something that has lots of wood and looks like it's from a cowboy movie.

Just my 2 cents... :)
 
1. It's their house, their rules.
2. If you can barely afford the PAL you won't be able to afford to shoot.
3. Save your money for a deposit on your own place where you can be the boss.
4. If you don't like number 3, then refer back to number 1.

Couldn't agree more. Sorry. Plus the point previously made that if you are hard up for money, a gun hobby is not going to work out well.

You could solve both the shelter and firearm issue by joining the CF, though.
 
Well, since you asked.. You are right not to get into a shouting match, or make a big dispute about this. The folks who own the property, and pay the bills, get to set the residency rules. Haggis95 probably has the best overall advice.

But you might take a more subtle approach. If there is a local gun store where you have done some research, and like and respect the folks who run it, or have done training at a range that your like, and where you feel comfortable, you might just invite your Dad out to that store or range, just to get some information on what you are into.

What father could resist this - his son saying, "Come on, let me show you what this is all about..." Make it clear that you will respect your folks wishes about no guns in the house, if that is their final word. But suggest that, particularly for your father, he might want to at least become familiar with what you are working towards - ie. getting your restricted PAL, and maybe even doing some competitive shooting.

It's really good to set goals, and pursue a challenging project that takes time and money to complete. Make it clear that you will try to get some part-time employment to fund your first gun purchase, if and when that becomes possible. And set your sites high. I differ from most folks who teach intro shooting skills, since I have always had little interest in .22's. Move on up, as soon as you possibly can, to something serious. Plan to get a .45 auto or a big revolver. A .357 magnum is a *really* good choice, as you can shoot ordinary .38 special, which is cheaper, and has less of a kick, and you can also shoot some .357's, which are a little more challenging. My personal favourite is the .45 auto, despite the cost. Its also really interesting to study and learn the history of firearms, by acquiring antiques and early models of various types.

And TargetNorth has a good idea. You can explain and demonstrate your interest in ultimately getting the restricted PAL, and doing some serious handgun shooting. Along the way, once the discussion goes on for a while, the idea of a basic bolt-action hunting rifle might end up becoming a compromise everyone can live with - particularly if your father gets a little more curious. But of course, I have no knowledge of your situation, right? Maybe your mother would be the one who might ultimately become more interested in the sport, given the proper introduction. Or maybe you invite them both out the range, just so they can see what it is all about. I guess the bottom line is that you have to respect their wishes, but you can also make a genuine offer to introduce them both to something that you care about, that requires education and discipline to master, and that is deeply connected to our history and culture as Canadians. We have been, and are, a northern people, in a land were none of us is really more than a few hundred miles away from frontier wilderness. Each of us should know how to drive in winter, use a rifle, navigate a boat, or operate a VHF radio. Expressed like this, what parent would not want their offspring to develop sensible life skills?

Two more cents, from the snow-covered wilds of Ontario... :D
- Rus
 
Wow, lot's of advice for you in this thread. Here are my thoughts...

- Waiting 5 years or more is not something I would want to do.
- Storing them at your parents is not going to happen.
- Storing them at your friends is an acceptable option.

so...

- Complete your PAL course and get your PAL
- Arrange for storage at your friends (no other permits required for Non-Restricted)
- Purchase your first firearm
- Complete the firearm transfer to your name

Have fun at the range.

- Take the CORE
- Obtain hunting license

Have fun in the field and at the range!
 
Well I am facing a sticky situation, I am about to undertake my CFSC/CRFSC and obtain my PAL. There is just one minor problem, while I am a turning 19 in just over 3 months, my parents are... well... they're liberal. Long story short no firearms in the house. So, what are my options for storing it at a friends place who is fully licensed as with a PAL. PS moving out is not an option, I'm a full time University student who barely has enough to pay for my PAL and still have some semblance of a social life. :bangHead: Any help you guys could give would be great, I'm starting to think this may just be an exercise in futility.

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I'm starting to think this may just be an exercise in futility.

It isn't !

By all means get your RPAL.:)

If the ownership gig is untenable at this time because of the gunophobic home situation you are not locked out of the sport & can still borrow guns from friends.

Long guns are no problem.......just make sure you borrow the reg cert with it & transport it according to the regulations ........out of sight & locked in the trunk when unattended by a licensed adult (PAL).

If you have an RPAL & want to take a friends handgun to an approved restricted range all you have to do is contact the CFO & they will send/fax you an STATT for one occasion......seen it done several times.

Make sure you either have or can borrow a lock box & trigger lock to comply with the restricted transportation regulations.
 
Convincing one or both of your parents to go shooting with you is a great idea and could pay off in multiple ways.
If someone is afraid of guns -then really- the best thing they can do is to familiarize themselves with safe firearms handling. Any step in that direction on their part is going to be good for them (and you). It is probably the key in changing their attitude from one of fear to a healthy respect (and/or enjoyment).
 
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