Gunsmiths that chamber and install M-14/M305 match barrels
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I am quite happy recommending 'Doug' at w w w.ellwoodepps.com in Oriliia, Bantario. He's done many barrel jobs in the past. Yes, they do sell Norinco-Plinko boomsticks also. 
Some other CGNutz like to bring their M14's to Jeff at Valley Guns (spelling? right title ?) in Petawawa area also. Maybe they can chime in with their recommendations.
Because I'm stuck here in McSquinty's Granola crunching Bantario, I am not familiar with other Western Canadian 'smiths who will work on M14's. Maybe during my August 08 "Hungry M14 Western Canada Road Tour", I can bring more gunsmiths up to speed.
Peace be to journey
Some other CGNutz like to bring their M14's to Jeff at Valley Guns (spelling? right title ?) in Petawawa area also. Maybe they can chime in with their recommendations.
Because I'm stuck here in McSquinty's Granola crunching Bantario, I am not familiar with other Western Canadian 'smiths who will work on M14's. Maybe during my August 08 "Hungry M14 Western Canada Road Tour", I can bring more gunsmiths up to speed.
Peace be to journey
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we just spent the last couple hours doing a rebarrel, HRA barrel and bits to a norc for bongobob in my kitchen. Katana and GrantChow hung out for "moral support" hehehe. We could not check headspace due to my guages not being here yet... any day now i hope . Was a snap, norc set screw out, norc barrel off, HRA barrel off, installed and indexed..... I'd say total time spent, minus the b.s.'in and finding tools in my mayhem , probably took less than an hour.
hook up with us for one of my monthly m14 support group meetings.... we'll get er done for ya .... if you can get to surrey, B.C.
. Was a snap, norc set screw out, norc barrel off, HRA barrel off, installed and indexed..... I'd say total time spent, minus the b.s.'in and finding tools in my mayhem , probably took less than an hour.hook up with us for one of my monthly m14 support group meetings.... we'll get er done for ya
.... if you can get to surrey, B.C.
Thanks to 45ACPKING, Katana, and GrantChow for the very productive evening...looking forward to checking out the headspacing ect...it sure looks good...hoping for a "match chambering"...I'll keep ya posted.
Go to the Wet Coast M14 clinics...these guys are great!
BongoBob
Go to the Wet Coast M14 clinics...these guys are great!
BongoBob
Thanks Hungry! ...I am looking for someone to use as a referral that is set up to chamber as well as change-out. The Krieger Match barrels we bring in are either not chambered or short chambered only. This requires a touch-up with a finishing reamer at the very least.
chamber reaming and dealing with "unfinished" match barrels, is probably beyond the scope of our m14 support group meetings..... BUT when you get one of those bad boys barrelled up..... please pass on any info on the B.C. smith that can do it.... I can shoot him lots of work
Finishing a chamber with a pull reamer set would add no more than half an hour to a barrel swap. If the tools to swap or index barrels are available at a support group meeting, only the reamer set would be needed to finish a match barrel installation.
If you have the right screwdriver(and technique) to get the stupid norc barrel screw out and proper vice and a suitable action wrench, indexing a barrel, or swapping a barrel is a simple job..... any reasonably mechanically capable individual should have no issues with it. As far as force goes.... I would estimate ballpark 80 to 120 ft pounds to bring it into index.... i'm 175lbs with a bad back and nerve damage in my right arm/shoulder... I have no problem with the task. My action wrench device does have a 3 1/2 ft bar built into it mind you, great for leverage.
katana has put together an excellent DVD that will answer AND SHOW HOW TO address all the little quirks with these rifles that are possible to "fix" in the home workshop. Once the final editting is done... this will be a MUST HAVE DVD for anyone wishing to work on thier m14s rifle.
katana has put together an excellent DVD that will answer AND SHOW HOW TO address all the little quirks with these rifles that are possible to "fix" in the home workshop. Once the final editting is done... this will be a MUST HAVE DVD for anyone wishing to work on thier m14s rifle.
That dvd sounds like something I'd really like to have. I'm just picturing the tightening / indexing of the barrel something like tightening a lug nut, and thinking its pretty tricky to get it to the exact position. If you overtighten by a degree, does it turn smoothly enough that you can back it off one degree for instance? I'm just picturing some challenge in moving it that precisely. I guess its a hands on experience.
It is a job best done with a extra set of eyes on the alignment bars and the receiver while the final pushes are made to index that last degree or so. We are talking human perception here too, you will never unless out of sheer luck, be able to "absolute" zero index your barrel by the human eye... but we get it close enough that it's most definately good enough
I say final pushes in the above because that's how i do it. pulling the bar towards you to undo, and pushing it away to tighten. (my action wrench device sticks straight up from the receiver). The receiver should turn untill it requires lotsa force and gets tight at 6 or 7 degrees from index. Then it is a matter of pushing the bar till you feel or see the receiver move slightly, then check and recheck the alignment bars/or machinists level. Then another push and repeat this process until the barrel comes into index. If it is easier than this and the receiver just turns with a moderate level of torque (less than 70ft lbs i'm guessin) i would have a gunsmith ensure that there is enough barrel shoulder left to keep her tight. Other than that..... in my reasonably limited experience at this...... it's a pretty straight forward job for anyone who is mechanically inclined.
As far as the original question posed in this thread.... the only person i have met with so far with a gunsmith background, AND an intimate hands on knowledge of how to build up and modify an M14 type rifle, is now retired.
I know several competent smiths, that no doubt have the ability to work on these m14s but none i have met have the previous hands on. This is why i do all my work myself..... short of chamber reaming ;D
would be cool to see someone post up the shops they have had work done at or the names of any m14 educated smiths... in each province
I say final pushes in the above because that's how i do it. pulling the bar towards you to undo, and pushing it away to tighten. (my action wrench device sticks straight up from the receiver). The receiver should turn untill it requires lotsa force and gets tight at 6 or 7 degrees from index. Then it is a matter of pushing the bar till you feel or see the receiver move slightly, then check and recheck the alignment bars/or machinists level. Then another push and repeat this process until the barrel comes into index. If it is easier than this and the receiver just turns with a moderate level of torque (less than 70ft lbs i'm guessin) i would have a gunsmith ensure that there is enough barrel shoulder left to keep her tight. Other than that..... in my reasonably limited experience at this...... it's a pretty straight forward job for anyone who is mechanically inclined.
As far as the original question posed in this thread.... the only person i have met with so far with a gunsmith background, AND an intimate hands on knowledge of how to build up and modify an M14 type rifle, is now retired.
I know several competent smiths, that no doubt have the ability to work on these m14s but none i have met have the previous hands on. This is why i do all my work myself..... short of chamber reaming ;D
would be cool to see someone post up the shops they have had work done at or the names of any m14 educated smiths... in each province
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As far as the original question posed in this thread.... the only person i have met with so far with a gunsmith background, AND an intimate hands on knowledge of how to build up and modify an M14 type rifle, is now retired.
I know several competent smiths, that no doubt have the ability to work on these m14s but none i have met have the previous hands on. This is why i do all my work myself..... short of chamber reaming ;D
would be cool to see someone post up the shops they have had work done at or the names of any m14 educated smiths... in each province[/QUOTE]
Thats a good idea, I am sure that there are some people on gunnutz that are gunsmiths or know of a gunsmith that works on M14s, and to have a list of gunsmiths for each province would sure promote sales and help all of us who are looking for gunsmiths.
As far as the original question posed in this thread.... the only person i have met with so far with a gunsmith background, AND an intimate hands on knowledge of how to build up and modify an M14 type rifle, is now retired.
I know several competent smiths, that no doubt have the ability to work on these m14s but none i have met have the previous hands on. This is why i do all my work myself..... short of chamber reaming ;D
would be cool to see someone post up the shops they have had work done at or the names of any m14 educated smiths... in each province[/QUOTE]
Thats a good idea, I am sure that there are some people on gunnutz that are gunsmiths or know of a gunsmith that works on M14s, and to have a list of gunsmiths for each province would sure promote sales and help all of us who are looking for gunsmiths.
