Turkeyslayer 1300
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- Russell, Ontario
The Ministry of natural resources should have been contacted earlier, maybe then they could have delt with the bear by relocating it or at least removing the cubs.
Guy shoots sow bear with two cubs - What would you do?
- Thread starter H Wally
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- Location
- Lakes District BC
dosnt matter WHAT some may think the law is the law, unless the bear was attacking the man and it was self deffence he broke the law, discharging a firearm in a no shoot zone and shooting a bear in a family unit, pretty simple to see he broke the law, so phucking what if the bear walked through town every day , its not like the bear apeard at the TO airport or was walking down granville st in vancouver during rush hour, some people here realy need to get out of the city more and relise bears and wildlife in general walking in small communities is COMMON
Northman999
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- Southern Yukon
It was a bit of a problem bear, raising more problem cubs...but the only proper way to deal with it was to call the CO's right away and give them a fair chance to deal with it. It should have been done long ago from what I read in your post. When bears start hanging around people, act now, or somebody dies later, usually the bear. This was a situation waiting to happen. The shooter here sounds like a #### however. Could she not be scared away until the CO's arrived? Would waiting a few days for it to be handled properly not have worked? Sounds like the damage was already done anyways, and what were the risks for others nearby when the shot was taken? And, idiots who shoot "local" animals that lots of people have come to know like this always pisses people off. I would report him and let him explain what he did, if he doesn't like it, too bad. If he can't justify his actions then they were wrong, plain and simple.
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Ok, maybe reread....
, past several years she has walked through the community at 3 pm. In the two years she has been doing this she has avoided people at all costs, even with cubs. It is also widely known she had two cubs.
My question is: realistically, what would you do? Actions have been taken involving Conservation officers, but what would the best course of action be?
Alternatively, it's a very very quiet area up there.... what would you do?
How was it a problem bear? Because it was familliar to a community, doesnt mean it was a problem animal, nor should it have been dispatched.
It was tearing apart an apparent Eyesore. Hwally, did the animal have a history of breaking onto cabins, or cattages? Likely not. calling the CO's was the best answer IMHO, and he should have dont this first...
Another bear guilty by association IMHO.
Problem bear
I've lived with bears on my place for many years.Last year I had 3 different sows with cubs,several boars and one 3 year old grizz hanging around through the summer and fall(I was a little leery of the grizz!).One of the boars killed a fawn,I was a little POed,but that's what bears do.If you have compost or fruit trees in this area you WILL have bears.I have yet to shoot one here and doubt that I will although I wouldn't hesitate if neccesary.Down the road 2 different people(Both newly arrived from the city) shot bears in their yards for no good reason other than the fact the bears were there.One of these bears was wounded (as the shooter had had too many beers) and the CO's had to come in to dispatch it.I'm kinda tired of people shooting bears because it "might be a problem bear".If it IS a problem bear call the CO's,they'll probably tell you to shoot it yourself,at least you'll be legal. Mur
I've lived with bears on my place for many years.Last year I had 3 different sows with cubs,several boars and one 3 year old grizz hanging around through the summer and fall(I was a little leery of the grizz!).One of the boars killed a fawn,I was a little POed,but that's what bears do.If you have compost or fruit trees in this area you WILL have bears.I have yet to shoot one here and doubt that I will although I wouldn't hesitate if neccesary.Down the road 2 different people(Both newly arrived from the city) shot bears in their yards for no good reason other than the fact the bears were there.One of these bears was wounded (as the shooter had had too many beers) and the CO's had to come in to dispatch it.I'm kinda tired of people shooting bears because it "might be a problem bear".If it IS a problem bear call the CO's,they'll probably tell you to shoot it yourself,at least you'll be legal. Mur
Agreed. If I lived in a community with bears nearby, I'd have a stock of bear bangers around, and try to teach other households how to use them.
The only time I've ever witnessed a bear scare discharged toward a bear (blackie) I can tell you that John Force on his best day would have had a hell of a time keeping up with that bear after the shot.
Call it in - most definitely.
Nuisance or problem bears - ESPECIALLY - sows with cubs are off limits to everyone except CO's . As stated above, if the CO gives you carte blanch (although doubtful), your covered. Any other action would brand you a poacher, along with the myriad of other charges, seizure of property, and suspension of hunting priviledges.
Provincial governments have become enlightened to that fact that you don't destroy a bear..for being A BEAR. Every effort is taken to relocate animals.
Nuisance or problem bears - ESPECIALLY - sows with cubs are off limits to everyone except CO's . As stated above, if the CO gives you carte blanch (although doubtful), your covered. Any other action would brand you a poacher, along with the myriad of other charges, seizure of property, and suspension of hunting priviledges.
Provincial governments have become enlightened to that fact that you don't destroy a bear..for being A BEAR. Every effort is taken to relocate animals.
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The problem is the bear tearing apart the old building. It(the bear) doesn't have the power of reason to know this is an old building. It is going to react to a conditioned response of tearing into a structure and being rewarded as will the cubs.
I deal with bears every fall and I have been chased out of my property only once and then it was my dog's fault and not the bears. I have been false charged and the sow with 3 cubs stopped at 10 ft. and still I have not shot a bear. I am a live and let live person but when a bear starts tearing into a building it (the bear) is bad news.
Call the CO's and let them sort it out..Teh guy is obligated to call the CO's himself, anyway. If you shoot a bear in defense of life or property, you must report it...
Sounds like an area near my house, 100 or so lots, no power, Provincial park on the side.
Sounds like an area near my house, 100 or so lots, no power, Provincial park on the side.
I wonder how many guys know just how lightning fast a bear can be over a short disatance?
Not many I'd wager. I had seen them scoot fairly fast in the wild before, but this bear hit the hyperdrive like nothing I've ever seen, the proverbial scalded cat!
It appears that in his case (young male) flight meant RIGHT NOW!
If it was known as the 3 o'clock bear to the locals then it was also known to the CO's who must of not cared to much for the bear as you all know what happened to the bear. The mistake the the shooter made was he failed to say the bear attached him. I love how we play the game sitting in the stands?
- Location
- calgary, AB
Wouldn't even think twice, I'd shoot it with the camara, nothing else!!! What a tool!
i have fired bear bangers at several bears, never even seen one flinch.
i have taken to buying a bear tag first thing in the spring, bear will get a pass the first time i see it around the house, second time though and it will get a 200 grain bear banger.
the bears must know about this though, in the past i have seen marks on my windows from their noses and muddy footprints on my porch, but not any more. there is still lots of bear sign in my pasture..... scat and overturned rocks and logs.
i find it hard to believe that anyone can think that there wouldn't be a problem with either a habituated sow or her cubs at some point in the future. action really should have been taken two years ago.
i have taken to buying a bear tag first thing in the spring, bear will get a pass the first time i see it around the house, second time though and it will get a 200 grain bear banger.
the bears must know about this though, in the past i have seen marks on my windows from their noses and muddy footprints on my porch, but not any more. there is still lots of bear sign in my pasture..... scat and overturned rocks and logs.
i find it hard to believe that anyone can think that there wouldn't be a problem with either a habituated sow or her cubs at some point in the future. action really should have been taken two years ago.
I saw this first hand with a HUGE black bear in my back yard last fall, he ran through 3 ceder panel fences trying to escape our 6 dogs who I just let out the back door for a midnight pee, and went up a tree in the other part of the yard just as fast with one of our female pitbulls hanging off his stubby tail, and boy He sounded most mad.
Shoot a Fiochi Rubber baton at em, and they kick into hyperdrive. They even #### when they hit the turboboost.
The MNR bear guy gave me a few to motivate any problem bears, and any motivated didnt come back...
there was only one real persistent nuisance...
A bear living in close proximity to humans doesnt equate to nuisance bear IMHO.
There is a difference between the two.
