Guy takes 30+ Moose this year so far WTF

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When I was a Ranger at Lesser Slave Lake the local Natives had a tendency to shoot game then go looking for a customer. If they didn't find anyone that wanted what they had shot they wouldn't bother coming back to collect the animal. The worst hunting stories I've ever heard where told to me by natives, they just didn't get that what they where telling me was bad, it was just the way they did things.
 
They sell it in the convenience stores on the reserve here for $8 a pound, cut and wrapped to anyone who wants it. Sign is on the wall, thought I was seeing things. Pickerel filets are 10 to a bag too for $35 and big filets, slot sized fish! I have a metis card and have the right to harvest for subsistence but don't use it, I still buy a license and hunt the proper way. If I were out of work and in a bad way then yes I would go for it to put food on the table but this killing game to sell? Doesnt sit well with this fellow!!
 
the spank said:
They sell it in the convenience stores on the reserve here for $8 a pound, cut and wrapped to anyone who wants it. Sign is on the wall, thought I was seeing things. Pickerel filets are 10 to a bag too for $35 and big filets, slot sized fish! I have a metis card and have the right to harvest for subsistence but don't use it, I still buy a license and hunt the proper way. If I were out of work and in a bad way then yes I would go for it to put food on the table but this killing game to sell? Doesnt sit well with this fellow!!
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That's actually illegal, even for natives.

For those who are misinformed, there is NO bag limit, NO seasons and NO license requirements for treaty indians. Shooting 30+ moose is perfectly legal. Selling them is not. They can only give them away to other treaty indians.
 
bearkilr said:
That's actually illegal, even for natives.

For those who are misinformed, there is NO bag limit, NO seasons and NO license requirements for treaty indians. Shooting 30+ moose is perfectly legal. Selling them is not. They can only give them away to other treaty indians.
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OK, so now that most Canadians arent descendants of the devils those treaties were signed with...when do we get to renegotiate?

We all get that there is NO bag limit...does that make it cool to shoot more moose every season than your entire community could eat in ten lifetimes? Honest question, you seem to want to educate us all. Overhunting is horsesh#t, doesn't matter what you claim as an ancestry.

This would be a far better country if we could dispence with the BS and just all agree to be CANADIANS, no special staus for ANYONE!
 
BigDotGlock said:
OK, so now that most Canadians arent descendants of the devils those treaties were signed with...when do we get to renegotiate?

We all get that there is NO bag limit...does that make it cool to shoot more moose every season than your entire community could eat in ten lifetimes? Honest question, you seem to want to educate us all. Overhunting is horsesh#t, doesn't matter what you claim as an ancestry.

This would be a far better country if we could dispence with the BS and just all agree to be CANADIANS, no special staus for ANYONE!
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Whoa..you misinterpreted my post. What I meant is that it's outrageous for it to be legal for them to do this. I'm as against this BS(or more) than most. Problem is, no politician will touch this topic, it's political suicide. The race card gets played immediately....you took our land,residential schools,blah,blah,blah.
Yes, our evil ancestors took their land. If they want to hunt like they did before we were here with no seasons or bag limits, then give me back my truck, my spotlight, my quad, my snowmobile and my rifles. Bow,arrow and spear only. No horses either,we brought them.
I'm all for equality but that's not what's happening here. The Metis Harvester card thing isn't helping.
One set of laws for all.
 
OK, so now that most Canadians arent descendants of the devils those treaties were signed with...when do we get to renegotiate?
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We need only to enforce the treaties exactly as written if we want to see a huge change.In many treaties,there is a clause that allows the government to place regulations on native hunting.

See the treaty document below.

http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/al/hts/tgu/pubs/t6/trty6-eng.asp

From that treaty:

Her Majesty further agrees with Her said Indians that they, the said Indians, shall have right to pursue their avocations of hunting and fishing throughout the tract surrendered as hereinbefore described, subject to such regulations as may from time to time be made by Her Government of Her Dominion of Canada,
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About 8 yrs ago my nextdoor neighbour (who is a white guy) had 3 deer hanging in his backyard. This guy is married to a (really nice) native lady. They have 2 sons....it never occurred to me that possibly only one of them took all 3 deer. Though I can't prove that statement.

Kinda irks me that I have to pay for a WIN card, hunting tag, then the different species tags I want...then get skunked if theres no deer around for those tags.
 
All Aboriginals are in that high risk group for the H1N1 vaccine and therefore will get vaccinated before the rest of us. I heard that the nurses go to the reserves and implement the shot for all ages. Not just 6 months to 5 years old.
Anyone know why they are on the high risk list? Is it like small pox to the aboriginals? Or is it something more political?
Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks
 
Ya the reserve here already got the vaccine. I think the chief complained or something and they all got priority. Oh and buddy is up to approx 34+ moose and was also spotted with a baby deer hanging in his shed. This is driving my crazy.
 
windage said:
All Aboriginals are in that high risk group for the H1N1 vaccine and therefore will get vaccinated before the rest of us. I heard that the nurses go to the reserves and implement the shot for all ages. Not just 6 months to 5 years old.
Anyone know why they are on the high risk list? Is it like small pox to the aboriginals? Or is it something more political?
Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks
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It is political. They have higer rates of obseity and related health problems(diabetes etc) stemming rom horrible diets and genetic pre-disposition. Not to mention horrible immune systems and a bad history with the previous Swine Flu.

While healthy Europeans set the bar at a .4% death rate for H1N1 prior to the pandemic declaration. The WHO is expecting a 7% death rate in natives.

Obviously the Government had to be proactive.
 
dumbdawg said:
what are they gonna hunt if they kill all animals
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Nothing more stupid than a system that tries to manage game numbers through hunting, when a group can harvest animals at will and with out accounting for these animals.

Kind of like trying to run a bank where a teller can simply take whatever he wants whenever he wants without telling anyone.
 
Lazy Ike said:
It is political. They have higer rates of obseity and related health problems(diabetes etc) stemming rom horrible diets and genetic pre-disposition. Not to mention horrible immune systems and a bad history with the previous Swine Flu.

While healthy Europeans set the bar at a .4% death rate for H1N1 prior to the pandemic declaration. The WHO is expecting a 7% death rate in natives.

Obviously the Government had to be proactive.
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But they must be eating healthier, if they have all that natural wild meat to feed their kids. Not the store bought crap.
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windage said:
But they must be eating healthier, if they have all that natural wild meat to feed their kids. Not the store bought crap.
:yingyang:
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A moose roast isn't healthy when washed down with 20+ Budweisers. Not generalizing about any specific group/person, just pointing out how one positive in an individuals diet can be quickly eliminated by another factor.

There is also the possibility that the harvested meat is being illegally sold, which is exactly what happens in many cases when salmon is over-harvested.
 
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