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Im replacing the factory installed sights on my Buffalo Classic with tang mounted peep sights. Are there any special instructions other than making sure they are perpendicular to the barrel? they will be installed in the wood only.thanks for any info that you have that may help.
 
It's a horrible way to mount the rear peep sight since the wood is too easily "bruised". But it's not like there's a whole lot of options.

What I would suggest is that you look at the option of forming and bedding a "saddle" of steel about .093 (3/32) that is about an inch wide and forms around the wood. Then when it's neatly fitted as best you can manage inlet it a little into the wood and bed/bond it down with some epoxy. Then mount the sight onto this pad.

Otherwise every little bump to the sight when it's raised is going to bruise the wood and result in the rear standard becoming non-vertical. Windage centering will be forever in question and you'll simply become totally frustrated. A "bruise" related shift of as little as .002 to .003 at the base can become multiplied to something like a .020 to .030 sideways shift at the peep cup. And that is more or less a couple of feet out at 200 to 300 yards. So a slight handling error while unpacking can result in missing the target center by a couple of feet?

There's gotta be a better option........ an inletted steel base is one way to get around this possible mess.
 
thanks for the info, thats more fine work than these old fat hands can handle. I agree though, the sights would never be completely stable unless they have been attached with some type of steel base. thanks again
 
I tried it on a Target Classic in 38/55 (same gun as yours just a different cal) and accuracy went out the window. Having the front and rear sight on the barrel means they do not move on separate plains. Tang sights are not for break action rifles. You can get flip up long distance sights that screw onto the barrel in the same screw holes currently on the rifle and get better results.
 
That's a good point about the break action.

Hmmmm.... what about mounting some other sort of peep sight at the back of the barrel so it hinges up and back down with the barrel? I'm thinking that if you fitted a dovetail rail that you could then find and mount one of the Anschutz style target peep setups. Likely the front globe would require some sort of riser block.

If you planned on using this for cowboy action side matches at all I'd check the rules. I know that the rules specifically prohibit reciever mounted sights. But in this case it would be on the barrel. Just back over top of the chamber.
 
That's a good point about the break action.

Hmmmm.... what about mounting some other sort of peep sight at the back of the barrel so it hinges up and back down with the barrel? I'm thinking that if you fitted a dovetail rail that you could then find and mount one of the Anschutz style target peep setups. Likely the front globe would require some sort of riser block.

If you planned on using this for cowboy action side matches at all I'd check the rules. I know that the rules specifically prohibit reciever mounted sights. But in this case it would be on the barrel. Just back over top of the chamber.

I think you will find that on break action rifles the receiver is considered to be the section with the trigger group and firing pin, so barrel mounting is ok, but, the Williams peep sight that is original to the H&R rifles is not allowed. There are sights that use the same mounting holes as the original Williams sight and is of a flip up design that works very well and is allow in "most" CB actions shoots. I could be wrong though as my wife frequently tells me I am. The Buffalo Classic would be a poor choice for receiver mounted sights and CB action shooting.
 
Ah, that nails it down a little on the CAS events.

Sometimes the rules they have sure do limit the options. Hey, I'd like to shoot an old Martini in .577/450 but the single shot buffalo class rules specifically call for a hammer fired gun.

Similarly the big bore lever rifle side match rules specifically require a tubular magazine. So the lovely looking Winchester 1895 is out of the picture.
 
Ah, that nails it down a little on the CAS events.

Sometimes the rules they have sure do limit the options. Hey, I'd like to shoot an old Martini in .577/450 but the single shot buffalo class rules specifically call for a hammer fired gun.

Similarly the big bore lever rifle side match rules specifically require a tubular magazine. So the lovely looking Winchester 1895 is out of the picture.

That's the main reason I don't shoot CAS. Besides that, you pay too much for entry fees and have to deal with
a bunch of "Ole West" wannabe's with attitudes to match. It's a Mr Dressup fashion show.

We should start an Empire Shooters Society based on European/Asian & Colonial arms to 1900.
That would sure piss off the sod-buster crowd bigtime.:)
 
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