H&R firearms
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I did heard a rumor that Remington, which owned H & R, might at some point begin making single shots again but I just don't see it happening. As has already been said it is tough to compete with the inexpensive but accurate bolt guns being produced these days. It's to bad, I liked the H & R Handi rifles.
Yeah, I've had a bunch over the years, still have a couple. With very few exceptions, they were excellent shooters with very few problems. Nowadays, bargain-basement bolt rifles that compete in the same price bracket would make it difficult for the H&R singles to be viable in the market...
...of course, the same thing was said to Bill Ruger in the 60's when he introduced the #1 single-shot rifle...at a price even higher than the "competing" bolt guns. Fortunately, he didn't listen.
Some guys just like singleshots.
...of course, the same thing was said to Bill Ruger in the 60's when he introduced the #1 single-shot rifle...at a price even higher than the "competing" bolt guns. Fortunately, he didn't listen.
Some guys just like singleshots.
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I have to agree on most everyone's posts. These were cheap, and sold at a low price point. How do they compete with $300 Axis? Yet at a higher price point the quality would need to be better and they would bump against the Thompson center and #1.
If someone was to start it up again, seeing as the brand is owned by Remington, would the quality be at par with H&R or more like a Remlin lever gun. Would they be a "Savage" 42 as compared to the old 24.
If someone was to start it up again, seeing as the brand is owned by Remington, would the quality be at par with H&R or more like a Remlin lever gun. Would they be a "Savage" 42 as compared to the old 24.
I bought my Handi-Rifle when it was the cheapest new rifle available. It cost more than the Stevens 200 did when that started the wave of low cost bolt-actions. I'm glad I got the Handi-Rifle (mine's a NEF) and don't mind what I paid then, but if the Stevens had been available at the time at its competitive price I probably would have bought that instead.
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The only H&R break action I ever owned was a .22 Hornet, and I liked the rifle except for it's 20 pound trigger. There are things that these rifles can do that no bolt action can. For starters they are shorter than a bolt gun, 4"-6" shorter with similar barrel lengths, since they don't require that long receiver to house a magazine and bolt. Because the rifle has a two piece stock, and the scope mounts to the barrel, there is less chance of a loss of zero due to the stock warping. In theory, these rifles could be made up in a number of rifle and/or shotgun combinations, that could be housed in a handy travel case, and its surprising to me that H&R never attempted to exploit the idea. I would think that a combination varmint rifle, deer rifle, shotgun combination would have generated some interest. I wasn't particularly comfortable with the idea of the Topper/Handi Rifle hinge action firing high pressure, full sized rifle cartridges, and I doubt that they compare to the strength of the Blaser K95 or a Brno Effect, but I'm unaware of any catastrophic failures due to the design, so why not market them in 3, 4, or 6 barrel combination packages?
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Up here in Canuckistan we never got the full benefit of these guns. In the States they had a barrel purchase program, and H&R owners could easily send in their receivers to have extra barrels fitted, dirt cheap. Guys would have one or two receivers with a bunch of assorted barrels, for a total cost that would still be less than that of a single T/C Encore up here.
I know that the Canadian H&R Custom Barrel Fitting Agency...i.e. hoytcanon...did a great job, but it was never as easy and convenient as just getting another tube from the factory.
I think I only have 2 left, a pair of Buffalo Classics, and they are sweet shooters. If you ever decide you want a Sharps rifle to use as a truck gun...they're the answer!
I know that the Canadian H&R Custom Barrel Fitting Agency...i.e. hoytcanon
...did a great job, but it was never as easy and convenient as just getting another tube from the factory.I think I only have 2 left, a pair of Buffalo Classics, and they are sweet shooters. If you ever decide you want a Sharps rifle to use as a truck gun...they're the answer!
the only one that I really liked out of a good number that we had (NEF's), was the H&R 157 full man licker stock in 30-30. As soon as I saw that gun, I had to have it. My buddy had it and I got in for $100. I enjoyed and my son's enjoyed for a number of years. Why I was so stupid enough to sell it, I'll never know!
I remember looking for a buffalo classic locally a few years ago. Every gun store guy I talked to thought I was crazy and I should have bought a marlin lever gun instead. Some people just don't see the appeal of a single shot 45-70 I guess.
The one that I shoot smokeless loads in is virtually as accurate as my C.Sharps 1875, at least within 300 yards. The other one is my BPCR, and I'm sure it's accuracy limitations are a result of my inexperience with loading blackpowder cartridges more than anything else. They are both nice shooters, with very nice walnut stocks (not just "hardwood") and crisp light triggers. Hard not to like them.
I like how H&R provided three things that budget bolts do not: irons sights, wooden stocks, and an interesting selection of calibers.
Maybe Remington will see fit to provide the guns in order to fit these criteria for collectors/ connoisseurs of the finer things in sub 400 dollar guns.
Maybe Remington will see fit to provide the guns in order to fit these criteria for collectors/ connoisseurs of the finer things in sub 400 dollar guns
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I like how H&R provided three things that budget bolts do not: irons sights, wooden stocks, and an interesting selection of calibers.
Maybe Remington will see fit to provide the guns in order to fit these criteria for collectors/ connoisseurs of the finer things in sub 400 dollar guns
Mine's a Superlight, synthetic stock, no iron sights. I still found enough in it to like, but it was a good thing that they offered so many choices at a relatively low price.
When I moved from a shotgun-only area to a rifle zone, I couldn't justify keeping the several rifled-barrel slug guns I owned and sold them all without regret...except for the H&R Ultra Slug. That inexpensive gun was an awesome shooter and had accounted for so many deer that I held onto it for a few years out of nostalgia, but eventually let it go. I had played with numerous other slug guns, and the only ones that came close to consistently matching the accuracy of the H&R were the Savage 210 and Browning bolt guns...the Savage at twice the price of the H&R, and the Browning at about 4x!
