I STILL HAVE A COUPLE CANS OF H-570 (thats hodgdons H570). and its too slow. if it was still produced,. it would be about same burn rate as H-870. have used H-4831/H-450 and H4350 IN my .300 win mag for years./ accurate and clean. shoot 220 grain hornady and would move up to 250 grainers, if i could find them. there,i might get away with the H-570, BUT THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY COMPRESSED LOAD..POPS