Had to call the Fishcops today...

david doyle said:
Yeah it does unless the informant is saying that he knew with out a doubt that the guy was poaching and had evidence to back it up.

All I read here is that he had some fish in his freezer and his roomate does'nt like that.

I think that was a side comment. I'm sure he has 'confessions' from the guy first hand. I HIGHLY doubt any one would be so foolish to report a poacher based on third hand knowledge.

Regardless, I don't think fish cops can get a warrant (or maybe they don't need one?) based on a complaint of 'no space in the fridge due to fish'.
 
They don't need one. And when they leave with the fish, the rods, firearms, quads etc are likely to head off to purgatory as well.

I HIGHLY doubt any one would be so foolish to report a poacher based on third hand knowledge.

Like I said if he had evidence great but I don't see any reason to cheer him on yet. Why would you highly doubt it?
 
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markl said:
i've been tempted a couple times when i'm fishing up the capilano by the fishery and have to watch 20 a-holes dropping lines in off a ridge trying to snag fish (usually only gouging a chunk off the side of the fish) hoping to 'catch' one and drag it up 25 feet....idiots.

i daydream about kicking them off the edge of the ridge:evil:...
....but that would be wrong, so i never would;)
It would only be wrong if you got caught.:kickInTheNuts:
 
Silverado where do you live? Just curious, you don't list a home town or even a province of residence.

I think you're completely correct to do something about this but I wonder did you confront the guy face to face, man to man or did you call this is anonymously?

I hope you gave the GREEDY BASTARD fair warning before turning him in.
 
as for the scummy big game poachers are they any worse then the trucking companies which mow down tens of thousands of big game animals a year in BC?

truckers do not mow down tens of thousands of big game animals in bc. There's only a few thousand vehicle hits a year in bc in total, never mind just the truckers.


And yea - they are worse because the truckers do what they can to avoid it, whereas the poachers do what they can to get away with it. Big diff.
 
david doyle said:
They don't need one. And when they leave with the fish, the rods, firearms, quads etc are likely to head off to purgatory as well.

You seem a little paranoid there david. Or maybe you have examples where some poor poacher lost all his toys? Anything I've seen sentenece wise for poach scum is in dollars and few of those...
 
Foxer I beg to differ. Do you realize how many animals are killed on logging roads and not reported to ICBC? I drove truck in the Cariboo area for 12 years. I bet I hit at least 100 deer ,countless bears and a few moose. I never reported it because I had a "roo" bar on the truck and the most damage recieved was broken lights. ICBC rates are nuts as it is so I wasn't going to increase the cost of my business when headlights are way cheaper. These collisions usually occured on narrow roads in the dark and most times I didn't even stop.
 
SuperCub said:
Why bring it up for discussion here? :confused:

Poachers aren't very popular, but then squeelers aren't either.

Paul, you are getting wiser with each day passing....:)
I was looking for the right words and didn't find them until you wrote them down.
 
A poacher is a poacher, period. Whether an acquaintance or another CGN member or whatever...they should be penalized to the full extent of the law, they are scum. :evil:
 
canucklehead said:
I think that was a side comment. I'm sure he has 'confessions' from the guy first hand. I HIGHLY doubt any one would be so foolish to report a poacher based on third hand knowledge.

Regardless, I don't think fish cops can get a warrant (or maybe they don't need one?) based on a complaint of 'no space in the fridge due to fish'.
We have very strict rules in place on where and when when you can fish here,
and walleye are not a fish you can" fill the freezer with" up here.

Walleye are closed in most of the flowing waters at this time.
Cat
 
Poachers aren't very popular, but then squeelers aren't either.

Ohhh, i dunno. Compared to what some guys would do to poachers if they DIDN'T feel compelled to turn 'em over to the cops, i'd have to say squeelers might just be a popular option :)
 
I'll elaborate. Firstly, I did warn this guy previously that what he was doing was wrong and illegal, and told him "Don't let me catch you doing that again, seriously." I even went so far as to HAND HIM a copy of the regs.

This was based on first hand, with my own eyes knowledge.

Now I hear from a number of individuals that he's at it again and worse, so I gave the F&W a tip about it.

Would it make some of you from Ontario feel a little better to know that he's from there, and out here to work like everyone else? I can't imagine the amount of fish/game he's taken from your home province illegally...

Edited to add: I actually went so far as to tell the officer where and when the guy fishes, so hopefully they can just catch him in the act and be done with it.
 
I have also turned people in for committing game acts.The worst was a couple of idiots that had two caribou hanging from a meat pole in their camp thinking that they were moose.This was in a public campsite and there is no caribou season in Alberta.My partner and I called fish& wildlife and they were on the scene very quickly.
I also get very tired of seeing people bend the rules by taking a carload of children out to the lake to play while they catch both their limit and the childrens limit icefishing, although the children never do fish.
 
Poaching

Turning in poachers is hardly "Squealing".I've done it before and I'll do it again if neccesary.That includes appearing in court to testify.If we as hunters and fishermen won't protect wildlife from "game thieves",who will?(I'm talking serious offenses here,including poaching for profit,not some guy who needs a deer to feed his family).Everyone deserves a warning,but after that it should be open season on game hogs! Mur
 
Silverado thanks for explaining this better. I very much like the approach you took by talking to the guy and then advising F&W to watch for the poaching in a particular area rather then turning the guy over directly.
As much as I despise poachers I find it best if you do it the way you did. Besides they may well catch other guys that are also poaching/fishing illegally.

Abuse of the fish and game populations is a serious crime and it's rampant. What galls the hell out of me is the white trash that take advantage of friendships with treaty Indians in places like Slave Lake.
Give the guy a 40oz bottle or 24 beer in exchange for riding into town with a cow moose the Indian "shot", that type of thing.
I knew a guy that did it and he bragged about the fact he did, but there was no way to prove it, stop it or anything. He had grown up with lots of native buddies and had many contacts to carry out that.

I have seen where native hunters shot a bull, cow and calf moose all together, left 'em overnight without even bothering to gut them and then the next day finally gut 'em. In this one case I know of we called the F&W officer and he came out. We went to the kill site with him that next morning and the Indians had arrived and were in the process of gutting those moose.
I have never seen such brutal, careless work in my life (besides the fact the carcasses had laid there all night). There was ####, dirt and hair all through those animals. To this day I am convinced they simply shot those moose to barter for whiskey. I cannot believe anyone would handle meat they intended to eat, so carelessly.

I also know a guy who told me that a native guy he knew had told him he'd shoot him anything, moose, elk whatever and as many as he wanted. It's how the native made his whiskey money... :mad:


Bah!! The whole topic makes me sick!! :puke:
 
truckers do not mow down tens of thousands of big game animals in bc. There's only a few thousand vehicle hits a year in bc in total, never mind just the truckers.


And yea - they are worse because the truckers do what they can to avoid it, whereas the poachers do what they can to get away with it. Big diff.

A few thousand! Ha maybe between PG and Frt nelson.

And no they do not do everything they can. Drive the number 1 or 97 or lots of other routes and tell me how many trucks are doing 80km/hr at 1:30 AM.
I have seen 3 animals hit this winter just in town here did I actually see that big a portion of all animals killed by vehicles in BC? I'll bet you supper and a case of beer that I can show you 100 carcasses in 20 km radius of where i sit what is that 5% of all kills?
 
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Silverado, good for you. You did the right thing. The mental midgets who are questioning your "squeeling" can go pound sand. I just about took a crack at a guys truck last year when I caught him driving through rangelands on property that I hunt to pick up a deer he had just shot. He did not have permission to hunt on those lands and had shot the little buck from the public road (illegal in AB) that passes through the owners land. If I wasn't so concerned with losing MY right to hunt and fish, never mind sleep in my own bed at night, I would gladly have given him a reminder to stay on the road. I did report the SOB to the landowner, and left it up to him to call the F&W officers. When I didn't hear from F&W, I called them to let them know.

As far as I am concerned ammo is cheaper than the court system.
 
338 fan said:
So you would just turn a blind eye??? People who ignore poaching aren't much better than the poachers themselves.
Read the post again ....... I didn't say that I would turn a blind eye. I'm not sure what I would do under the same circumstances.

To clarify, my question was, "Why bring it up for discussion here?" and my point was that squeelers & poachers weren't popular folk.



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