Haenel 16 Gage

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ERICK TUIN

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A friend has an old Haenel 16 2 1/2 Gage European over under shotgun. 2 1/2 is not a typo. Trying to find info and value on this beautiful firearm. Can't seem to find anything on the net. This thing is all hand carved with birds on the action. It has been used for hunting so isn't in pristine condition but is for sure in good condition. It locks up tight and shoots like a dream. I would like information if possible and or value. I will try to figure out how to attach a photo.

Thanks
 
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Good quality photos are essential to answering your questions. All writing/stampings from everywhere on the gun as well as photos and description that allow us to ascertain the original quality and current condition.
 
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q771/4Sparetime/over under/20171103_161316_zpsdqx48kfp.jpg
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As you can see it is a beautiful gun. My buddy Paul has owned this since he was a kid in the UK now he is 50 just curious for information and possible value. Not looking to sell but would like to learn. First gun I have personally seen that requires a 2.5 inch shell. Did the job on the grouse last week though.
 
Okay, that's a start. But that's all it is. Can't see the stock. Can't see the butt plate or pad. Can't see the forend. Can't see the barrels. Have no written description of the gun.....chokes, LOP etc.

I have lot's of 2 1/2" guns. Some might be worth $500....some might be $10,000. Here's the thing. Name brand for old guns is next to worthless in helping arrive at a value. Becasue there were literally hundreds and hundreds of makers who could make guns of all different qualities. So, to establish a value now, we first have to figure out what the quality level was to begin with, then we have to figure out what the current condition is.

Old plus rare (as this one may be) does not equal valuable. Orginal quality and current condition are what count on European guns.
 
Thanks Canvasback. For value I agree there could be more info. That is all of the pictures I took. So if we forget about the value part of the equation for now is there a source of information on this gun? Like I have said all along he isn't looking to sell it just curious about it. I was hoping the stampings would help with the identification. We tried google and weren't successful. Paul has been hunting with the gun his entire adult life so it isn't in immaculate condition. It is a beautiful gun a collector may give it a 6 or 7/10. The chokes are fixed and the wood looks good for a hunting gun but not in NIB condition by any means.
 
For those who may have been following here is what I found:

It is from the firm of Carl Gottlieb Haenel, one of the larger arms companies. The firm was founded in Suhl in 1840, later managed by his widow, and then his son.
This gun was proofed in Suhl in March of 1939 and has a later proof from Britain. It is a box lock with construction much like the 300 series Merkels: under barrel lugs, and Greener crossbolt locking the two barrel extensions. It was made with 16 gauge 2.5" chambers.

Now onto value.... turning out to be quite an interesting challenge.
 
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