Handguns for hunting? What do you think?

[guess_kto]

Handguns can be used for hunting.

For example “back up gun against bears”, 22lr gun for grouse and other small game while hunting big game such as moose (I usually have 2 rifles and I hate this. Handgun would do this job much better). In USA, you can hunt deer with handgun too or at least with short carbine.

Why we cannot do it. Well, thanks to antis and Liberals, hanguns are restricted, so you cannot take them anywher but range unless you have ATC (authorisation to carry). Province don't care about it, since Federals are already there with their anti-hunting lobby.

ATC (once again thanks to antis and their "great" job) can be given only to shoot humans for protection (yup, some people do get it) and for lawful occupation. Lawful occupation is for use by security guards and for use in the wildness. Geologist can carry handgun in the woods for protection from wolves, bears, etc. Also, fur managers lobbied the government and handgun can be used by trappers.

So my point is why not hunters?

The problem is that hunters are not like trappers don't hunt for profit, so it's no occupation, but a hobby or something. However, if Bill C-68 will be ruined, why not to push for use of handguns by hunters?

There is no “safety issues” here since the handgun will be used the wild and it’s less dangerous than rifle. I don’t expect to see a gang member with a hunting license in the woods 200 km away from the big city either…

PS. Bruce Mills also told me that hunting with handguns used to be permitted, up until 1969 when Turd-O passed gun control laws banning it.

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Well, interesting, but handgun hunting isn't prohibited, we simple cannot hunt with them only because handguns are restricted and there is no way you can get from current CFOs an ATC for hunting. However, if we lobby to change regulations (not even laws) and add "hunting" into list along with "trapping", "mining", "security", etc. we can permit "wildness" Authorisation To Carry (ATC) for hunters... All we have to do is to make CFOs to issue ATC to hunters. It's not CCW but permit to carry handgun in the woods in the holsters like most trappers and miners do.

 

[unusedusername]

.22 on chickens is fun
sometimes they will sit and wait until you get a headshot
atleast thats what i dreamed last night
this is a rifle post, right?

 

[JasonYuke]

I would love to sit in a ground blind and wait for a whitetail or bear with a hot loaded 45 colt, Would be great, as well I would support any activity in the shooting sports, more is better.

 

[Mumptia]

mmmm a .30.30 in a hand gun mmmmmm

 

[Grouse Man]

Ducks with a .410 revolver . . . hmmmmm

 

[phronq]

I'd have no problems with folks hunting with handguns, and in fact, I'd encourage it. It might even put me a step closer to getting my own fresh food.

The big barrier to break through to make it happen is the years of government demonization of the handgun. Many folks who are unfamiliar with guns (or outright against them) will probably think it's ridiculous to want to hunt with a handgun instead of a rifle or shotgun, but really.. is there any argument against it? I don't think there is.

 

[CTS]

I would support this for sure. Might even be another reason to get a hand gun.

 

[Levi Garrett]

S&*t ya, great backup, and would be a fine choice if I got injured , and could not pull back a bow string.
Would limit my hunting to the same guidelines I use when bowhunting. This would be , timing, study of the anatomy, range 0-30 meters ideal , iron sights.
And tree stand hunting would be a blast.
Choices I have, 45 LC SAA right now anyway
Frank

 

[Gatehouse]

I ahve heard all sorts of argumenhts against hutnign with handguns, moslty to do with "you;ll have wounded animals everywhere!!"

It's just a tool, like any othe rtool. and it has to be used within it's specifications and with skill.

 

[aulrich]

I am not sure what you call it now or what the rule is now back in the day when I had one, it seem the big piece of paper was the conveance permit (the one that let you take it out of the house not just the restricted permit). I think that concept is what killed hunters with handguns. Mine read to a pistol range or any US border point if I wanted a smith to look at it I had to get a special permit to get it from my house to the smith.

But this was pre c-68 is there an equivalent now or how is that handled.

I probably just have a 22 myself, potting grouse and finishing the odd coyote.

 

[prosper]

Yeah, I'd love to use a 22 for the small stuff, and a T/C for bigger game. Seems more sporting somehow

 

[Donny Fenn1]

i would like to use a 22LR for gophers in close, when i am set up with my 22x centre fire rifles

 

[atr]

guess kto , your date is wrong , at least for Ontario . It was 1979 , not 1969 . Up until 1979 there was no mention of hunting with handguns , pistols or revolvers in the Ontario Fish and Game regs . Up until 1978 many of us had Att's that simply stated on them , 'for the purpose of target shooting' and the ATT didn't say where . 1978 was the last year you could legally hunt with a handgun . In 1979 the Ontario regs were changed to preclude using handguns for hunting and at the same time all of our ATT's were change to say , at an approved shooting range . In 1978 i shot a moose with a Blackhawk .44 mag and was stopped in a game check on the Black Sturgeon Road . No problem . If you can find a copy of the 1978 regs or before , you'll see .

 

[Ljungman]

I think small game (grouse, rabbits, ect) would be great with a .22. I'd support big game HG hunting too but would probably never do it my self. Regauardless I pocked opshion 4....oops! he he

 

[Sask_Hunter]

i hope that they do allow handgun hunting. i would buy one maybe to new revolvers. there are all kinds of ways to hunt with a wheel gun and it would be an effective tool in areas with lots of acreages.

all handgun hunting is, is another way to get out side and enjoy the outdoors.

 

[Ljungman]

I love it that a big Liebral excuse why we shouldn't have handguns is "You can't hunt with them" Um.... only cause you won't let us #######!

 

[Boomer686]

It's retarded that we cannot hunt with handguns. Pure crap.

Regards,

 

[Foxer]

I think a 22 for grouse would be great. I'd carry one for that.

I also think we should be allowed to carry if we want to for protection. Pretty hard to get to your rifle when you're gutting a moose.

But personally - i don't like the idea of hunting big animals with a pistol. If you want a challenge - buy a slug gun or for that matter just wait till you're closer before you shoot I don't like the idea of making it 'challenging' by choosing an inferior tool , and by any practical measure any pistol is inferior to a rifle when it comes to big game.

Having said that - i think it should be a choice. It should be allowed.

 

[tootall]

I recall a conversation with an old German guy. He was explaining how hunting is in Germany (Difficult and Expensive!), and mentioned that it was common to carry a sidearm for the Coup De Grace (I hope I spelled that right, My French isn't so good),or final shot. If we wanted to push for it, using European countries may help.

Also, we could use the "get closer, rather than bang the animal from 300 meters" angle. More difficult, so more chance for the animal.

And yes, I voted for it.

 

[crazy_davey]

I think a 22 for grouse would be great. I'd carry one for that.

I also think we should be allowed to carry if we want to for protection. Pretty hard to get to your rifle when you're gutting a moose.

But personally - i don't like the idea of hunting big animals with a pistol. If you want a challenge - buy a slug gun or for that matter just wait till you're closer before you shoot I don't like the idea of making it 'challenging' by choosing an inferior tool , and by any practical measure any pistol is inferior to a rifle when it comes to big game.

Having said that - i think it should be a choice. It should be allowed.

I know what you are saying foxer, but would like to ask another question. If you had a choice between rifle, handgun or bow which would you choose?

Just like the thread about a 30-30 for moose. Most guys said they would never use a 30-30 on a moose, yet bowhunters take moose all the time and some even with trad bows, so why the hell not use a 30-30! Are bow hunters unethical?

Not trying to start an ethics argument, I just dont understand the way some hunters think sometimes.

Hunting with anything can and will be fun as long as it is done within reasonable limits. I would have no problem taking a moose at the proper range with a heavily loaded .44 magnum handgun. I will say it again "WITHIN REASONABLE LIMITS"

I am all for handgun hunting as well.