Hardest chambering to give up?

Ardent

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I’ve been on a painful process to standardize my battery to one bore size so all my components interchange. I’m a simple freezer hunter these days who doesn’t travel far anymore for hunting, and frequent long distance target shooter. This has lead me to streamline the load bench massively, I used to stock .224/.257/7mm/.30/.375/.470/.577 in many different shaped cases, diameters in bold saw heavy stocking and use.

Only one chambering has never left, even if for the shortest of periods, the .30-30 Winchester. I’ve never handloaded it, ever, and finally bought the first box of component bullets for it. My first centerfire was my Grandfather’s .30-30, and I’ll always be a .30-30 adherent as such. This is utterly the only chambering that’s truly safe, as even the .22LR is threatened now by the .17.

So that starts me with .30 on the bench, even if the bullets are flat pointed or gummy tipped. Second, the .308 boring as it is, has seldom left for long, and never left in components. It’s the 7x57 I hunted with more, but without the fuss, and is available everywhere, and in everything. Have used it on moose, wolves, many others... shot it to 1,000 a lot for fun… It was always a “just get out there” chambering, and typically I shot factory ammo from it. I pretty well always have one sighted in, ready in the safe. I was in Canadian Tire recently, looking at bare ammo shelves, and noted there wasn’t even .30-30. But there were at least a half dozen .308 options still. So the .308s likely safe.

The 7mm was awkward to eliminate, I’ve used them for 20 years and most of my custom builds have been 7s. Heck it’s my avatar since 2004. It’s fantastic, but… does nothing .30 can’t. And my favorite 7mm case, the x57, isn’t available in everything. It’s likely a good thing I never built a .284… or I’d be stocking two mid bores still, 7mm and .30. I loved guiding clients shooting 7 Rem Mags, was my favourite chambering to see in their hands, as just about everyone shoots it well and it shoots flat, arriving with sufficient speed. This said, for my own personal use, I never took to it, and never kept a 7 mag long.

The .375, has been a long story with me. I bought the first from Russell Sports in Calgary, and never looked back, was my one rifle for the world. Took a couple big five, biggest thing on this continent, much of the other BC game with it, three Africa trips all in and even one to Hawaii. I carried it backing up clients on Grizzly hunts for years too with confidence. It does utterly everything well. But… it is big… the guns are heavy… and it was overkill for 3/4s of what I did with it. So I made a smaller, lighter .375 wildcat. It was wonderful, however my guiding days are done, and if I was committed to this one bore for everything program .375 had to go. I almost made .375 the one bore… could have even put a .38-55 barrel on the M94 to really commit. But alas, let it go… and it was easier than expected.

The big heavies, .458 briefly, .470, .505 briefly, .577 were easy to eliminate. I found the .375 worked better honestly anyhow, the big ones were too slow, and the bullets too stiff, the trajectories abysmal, plus the applications overall very limited. This is a short story.

.224 wasn’t that hard to eliminate, it’s too small for most of what I do with a rifle, and I’ve bored of the black guns, plus don’t love it as a target / long range round. I no longer predator hunt, or long range gopher shoot anymore. Another short story.

That leaves me with the surprise hardest to elimate. .257… Every custom I planned for myself, this was on the short list. I’ve found for the last 15 years it’s ideal for 99% of what I do with a rifle. It is just… not as easy to support as .30. I’ve sold most of my stuff now that isn’t .30, but .25 is one I’ve been clinging to like a kid outgrowing their toys from a younger era and unable to let go. Had an offer on my last good .257 blank shoehorned away for a project, and just said sure 15 mins ago. I even debated converting everything in the battery to .25, it’s likely my favourite bore. But, one that’s just a mite too hard to support, or find easy factory ammo for (the biggest factor). For shooting pleasure and performance, it’s #1 however.

In a world where I hunted as much as I used to, I’d likely be a .257 and .375 guy. But as I’m choosing just one, it’s gonna sensibly land in the middle and be .30. I do worry I’ll relapse into .257 however… the rest, I don’t feel that pain for. ‘Cept maybe a hint of .375 angst.
 
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All varmint chamberings are now gone from my collection now that I am firmly in the 243 camp. I just don't need anything else. For the really small critters, 22LR is just fine for my limited purposes. Of course, I will never replace my 7x57, 308, 8x57 and 45-70 as they are in various platforms/configurations that work for everything else. I have dropped every boutique calibre.

I will also never give up 7.62x39 due to my SKS and CZ 527 which I love almost as much as my dogs. :)
 
Life's too sort to eliminate ANY caliber... just my opinion.

I've never had a .257 or any interest in anything smaller than .277cal and I'm not even much a fan of the .270Win although I still have one.

A .243Win would be a fantastic varmit rifle, but I'm done buying (or selling) anything. What I have I hold to the bitter end, when the Reds-Turds descend upon people to seize our guns.
 
Great post. I have nowhere near the hunting resume, but as a gunnut I have had way too many different calibers. Over the last couple years I have divested of lots, and tried to settle on having only 6.5 and .30.

My 7 collection consisted of a 7WSM, 7Rem Mag, 7Wby Mag, and 7x61 Sharp and Hart. I still have some 7 stuff, but it's thinning out.

I was doing OK, until a couple days ago, when I ran into an 1886 I just had to have. I even had half of my components sold. Thankfully the dies and some bullets are still unsold, so here we go. For me it's about the actions and the feel of the different guns.
 
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Going to try and get down to 1/2 dozen cals this year. Keep 22 rimfire,223,6.5x55,308/3006,338,375,4570/458. It might be a bumpy year and what if’s.
 
As someone who is months away from retirement, I've been downsizing my collection of guns.

Being a die hard deer hunter, the last rifle I'd ever sell is probably one of my older Remington 700's in 30-06 (one is from 1963, the other from the early 1980's)

As far as an old lever rifle with sentimental value, it would be one of my Savage 99EG's in .300 savage caliber.

But at the end of the day, all I need is something in a .30 caliber, anything else is either too big or too small for my needs.
 
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Simple meat hunter from Ontario who enjoys the occasional target shooting.
I've stockpiled what I feel confident is lifetime supply of ammo.
22lr
270 Winchester
7mmRM
12 gauge

If I can't get it done with one of them, I'll have conviced myself to give it up. I plan on huntimg meat as long as physically possible.
 
I've downsized in the last couple years as well. Got rid of the .257, 270's .338's, 9.3's, 375, and 416. I'm still working on deciding what's next. .22, 6.5mm, 7mm, 30 cal's, and 8mm is what' left. I'm thinking to get rid of the 6.5mm and settle with whats left.

Most practical in my world would be the 30's. 308 for plinking, 30-06 all around, 300 win for long range work. Fairly easy to find ammunition, and reloading components.
 
My first rifle was a 284win, I don't think I could ever let that cartridge go. I've played with a few magnums but have come to realize that 270, 280 or 284win have enough power to suit my needs. I could get by with just the 270, plenty of ammunition and components. Not enough of a difference between it and a 280. It would work well on antelope with 110 gr bullets. You already know this Ardent, it was you that put me on to these bullets.:)
 
I admire your discipline. I’ve gone the other direction and have a different rifle and calibre for most hunting situations you can imagine. Ironically there is no .308 bore in my current collection.
The rational side of my brain says to keep my favourite 7mm and enough ammo to shoot the barrel out and auction everything else. Could do a pile of hunting. Alas, this is gunnutz…..
 
My first rifle was a 284win, I don't think I could ever let that cartridge go. I've played with a few magnums but have come to realize that 270, 280 or 284win have enough power to suit my needs. I could get by with just the 270, plenty of ammunition and components. Not enough of a difference between it and a 280. It would work well on antelope with 110 gr bullets. You already know this Ardent, it was you that put me on to these bullets.:)

And I still love that recipe of a 110gr class bullet at speed, I just settled on doing with .257.

did you hunt much with the 30-30?

Nope, it’s always in the aircraft though when I’m bush flying… but I take the .308 hunting. Just too handy of a little gun, the 94. It’ll certainly do everything I hunt these days as well, I may take to using it as a primary yet.
 
I used to have a rifle in every calibre from .223 to .458 except for a .358 of some sort and that was on the short list but I realized that I was consistently grabbing only a few rifles and most sat for years without ever being used outside of the range so I narrowed my collection down significantly. 90 percent of my big game hunting is done with a pair of Kimber Montana's in .338 Federal and 6.5 Creedmoor. There isn't anything I couldn't hunt in north America with those two rifles. I do have several other rifles of course and I do use them from time to time but those 2 are the go to's.

I should add that the one chambering I will never get rid of is the. 30-06. I have thought about selling the Ruger Hawkeye I have in it and getting a Montana but I will definitely never be without one.
 
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I’ve been on a painful process to standardize my battery to one bore size so all my components interchange. I’m a simple freezer hunter these days who doesn’t travel far anymore for hunting, and frequent long distance target shooter. This has lead me to streamline the load bench massively, I used to stock .224/.257/7mm/.30/.375/.470/.577 in many different shaped cases, diameters in bold saw heavy stocking and use.

Only one chambering has never left, even if for the shortest of periods, the .30-30 Winchester. I’ve never handloaded it, ever, and finally bought the first box of component bullets for it. My first centerfire was my Grandfather’s .30-30, and I’ll always be a .30-30 adherent as such. This is utterly the only chambering that’s truly safe, as even the .22LR is threatened now by the .17.

So that starts me with .30 on the bench, even if the bullets are flat pointed or gummy tipped. Second, the .308 boring as it is, has seldom left for long, and never left in components. It’s the 7x57 I hunted with more, but without the fuss, and is available everywhere, and in everything. Have used it on moose, wolves, many others... shot it to 1,000 a lot for fun… It was always a “just get out there” chambering, and typically I shot factory ammo from it. I pretty well always have one sighted in, ready in the safe. I was in Canadian Tire recently, looking at bare ammo shelves, and noted there wasn’t even .30-30. But there were at least a half dozen .308 options still. So the .308s likely safe.

The 7mm was awkward to eliminate, I’ve used them for 20 years and most of my custom builds have been 7s. Heck it’s my avatar since 2004. It’s fantastic, but… does nothing .30 can’t. And my favorite 7mm case, the x57, isn’t available in everything. It’s likely a good thing I never built a .284… or I’d be stocking two mid bores still, 7mm and .30. I loved guiding clients shooting 7 Rem Mags, was my favourite chambering to see in their hands, as just about everyone shoots it well and it shoots flat, arriving with sufficient speed. This said, for my own personal use, I never took to it, and never kept a 7 mag long.

The .375, has been a long story with me. I bought the first from Russell Sports in Calgary, and never looked back, was my one rifle for the world. Took a couple big five, biggest thing on this continent, much of the other BC game with it, three Africa trips all in and even one to Hawaii. I carried it backing up clients on Grizzly hunts for years too with confidence. It does utterly everything well. But… it is big… the guns are heavy… and it was overkill for 3/4s of what I did with it. So I made a smaller, lighter .375 wildcat. It was wonderful, however my guiding days are done, and if I was committed to this one bore for everything program .375 had to go. I almost made .375 the one bore… could have even put a .38-55 barrel on the M94 to really commit. But alas, let it go… and it was easier than expected.

The big heavies, .458 briefly, .470, .505 briefly, .577 were easy to eliminate. I found the .375 worked better honestly anyhow, the big ones were too slow, and the bullets too stiff, the trajectories abysmal, plus the applications overall very limited. This is a short story.

.224 wasn’t that hard to eliminate, it’s too small for most of what I do with a rifle, and I’ve bored of the black guns, plus don’t love it as a target / long range round. I no longer predator hunt, or long range gopher shoot anymore. Another short story.

That leaves me with the surprise hardest to elimate. .257… Every custom I planned for myself, this was on the short list. I’ve found for the last 15 years it’s ideal for 99% of what I do with a rifle. It is just… not as easy to support as .30. I’ve sold most of my stuff now that isn’t .30, but .25 is one I’ve been clinging to like a kid outgrowing their toys from a younger era and unable to let go. Had an offer on my last good .257 blank shoehorned away for a project, and just said sure 15 mins ago. I even debated converting everything in the battery to .25, it’s likely my favourite bore. But, one that’s just a mite too hard to support, or find easy factory ammo for (the biggest factor). For shooting pleasure and performance, it’s #1 however.

In a world where I hunted as much as I used to, I’d likely be a .257 and .375 guy. But as I’m choosing just one, it’s gonna sensibly land in the middle and be .30. I do worry I’ll relapse into .257 however… the rest, I don’t feel that pain for. ‘Cept maybe a hint of .375 angst.
It’s funny, I’ve settled on 30 (and 12ga) for exactly the same reasons. Still got a few “others”, kind of like pictures of another time.
 
I hear ya 100%, my only shotgun gauge is now 12 as well and I’m going there, .308 and 12ga, plus rimfire. I do debate if a painful program to convert everything to .257 Roberts has any merit. But I know it doesn’t… that other era’s call is strong, and I just plain like shooting .257 so much. Feels like forgetting a gal once and for all that was pretty great.
 
With .308 knock on wood I’ve still never seen that honestly, and I’d probably rather have 5000 .308 than 500 of each of ten different chamberings, logically. Nice when one ammunition goes into any rifle in the safe, too, except from my grandfather’s 94 of course. At least in a pinch it can two load a bullet from the .308 stock. Bought Hornady A-Max and Federal Gold SMK ammo a few days ago at crappy tire. Bought a case of 500 FMJs that are still in stock not long before.

I’ve definitely learned to never say never, but feeding a .308 isn’t a big concern from my perspective. That’s the number one reason it has beat out all the others for my purposes, it does their jobs without giving up much, and you can get it in a lot of flavours. It isn’t the best at anything I do, no question there. But it’s without question the best compromise between all of them, and to get down to one, compromise is the ethos.
 
Used to have 20-30 guns; probably 20 rifles in as many chamberings. 9.3, 270, 243, 7mm, 348, 500 (S&W), 454, 458, 223, 310, 8mm etc etc etc. Have always had a prejudice against 30 cal (boring) but did own a couple 30-06 (double Baikal and rem 721 during a retro phase) and a few 308 (Kimber 84m’s and model 7’s). Didn’t like repeat chamberings; every gun was a new set of does, bullets etc. inevitably sold at a loss to fund another weird gun/caliber.

Always seemed to go back to 338 wm, 8x57 and 270

I now have 3 centrefire rifles. Reloading for 338 wm and 8x57 IRS. Cheap non corrosive 7.62x39 hoarded a while back in a CZ 527 for range fun ( bought to use on a Haida Gwaii deer hunt, has survived all of multiple safe purges).

I’d like to get a bolt gun in 8x57 as a backup etc. Use the same bullets and dies as the JRS with shell holders and some brass still on hand. Sharing components is really the dream.

A lot of the guns I own now are much better quality than those I owned before. I had a few nice med range guns but most were older or more budget oriented (Zastava, H&R etc). After playing with nicer guns, scopes and stocks it’s hard to go back I think I’d rather have 3-4K into a rig and have 1/4 the guns.

I still have dreams and aspirations for guns I want to “try out” but can no longer really afford it. I think I’m past “collecting” for the sake of it. I have a lot of big dreams for my next “ keeper” rifle though
 
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