Has anyone ever actually had a Post-64 Winchester fail them.

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Either a Model 70 or 94 in anyway what-so-ever? I mean followers or magazine springs coming apart, triggers seizing, anything to do with stock, etc. Could you please list any problems from the cost cutting aspects you have experianced? Thanks.
 
I have a 670A in 3006, this is an economy version of the Model 70 differentiated by a blind magazine and a Birch stock. It has worked flawlessly since 1977 even though it got dropped once hard enough to destroy it's first scope.
 
I have one of each, a Black shadow and a Legacy.

The Legacy works just fine, but the pre 64's sure are more aesthetically pleasing.
 
The gunshop I hung out in when I was a kid harbored hard feelings towards the post '64 M-70's and had me convinced that the M-700 was a better product. The old style M-700 I got in .350 magnum split from midway through the pressed checkering in the forend right through the inletting and deep into the pistol grip. So much for the superior Remington stock!! I recall that they claimed to be kept busy replacing a number M-70 bolt handles which broke off with normal use, and I suspect that the rifles Winchester produced in the early '70's were probably poorer than those produced earlier or later. In hindsight, the M-70's flat receiver is a better bedding surface than the round M-700. The Winchester extractor is superior to the Remington. The Remington folks claim their extractor is infallible, but I've had to replace 3, two on M-700's and one on a M-7, when they began to skip past the case rims.

A pal of mine bought a M-70 .300 Winchester at the same time as I bought my M-700 .350. I smugly strutted around knowing I had the superior rifle in the superior caliber. Well, I still think that the .350 is a better big game round than the .300 Winchester, but the 1972 production M-70 despite it's reputation continues to provide good service to it's original owner while my .350 magnum is a distant memory.
 
I have a M70 XTR Sporter push feed in 338 that I bought in about 1985 and I've never had any problems with it. I think it's a nice looking rifle.
 
I've had no problems with any of my own M70's. When I worked as a Winchester warranty shop, I did see some problems which were confined to the post-64 M70s.
The first and most common problem was the bolt handle coming loose due to improper silver solder joint. The second common problem was breakage of the bolt stop pin. Apart from these two things, the post -64 rifle worked just fine. Regards, Bill.
 
I have seen the trigger fail to operate on two, first time a 30-06, second was a 270. Both times were during hunting trips. Lots of rain, and the stock wood swelled enough to render the triggers inoperable.

The first was a friend of mine trying to shoot a moose. He worked the action twice and no go. I handed him my 358 Norma Mag and he put the moose down. He was so worked up by then, he never even noticed the recoil. :runaway:

Second time was on a fly-in moose and caribou hunt. My buddy's son came back with my son, and said his rifle would not fire, and that he had missed a moose. I had already had the experience twenty some odd years earlier with terry's '06 and knew the answer.

Both rifles were back in action in about ten minutes with some bubba bush gunsmithing using a hunting knife! Both are still working today. :D

Ted
 
Pre-64 Model 70's and 94's were all machined steel and walnut with cut checkering on the mod. 70's. Some people (myself included) just like guns made the good old way. Sometimes it's not always better. Cheers!
 
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