Has anyone ever truly needed the fast follow up of a semi?

Yeah... Semi's and Pumps are the rule of thumb for Southern Ontario Shotgunners and the lads that hunt with dogs or drive for deer in the rifle zones sure like thier repeaters too.
Most experienced Deer Hunters will agree that there are many instances when a follow up shot is adviseable and neccesary. Primarlily on multiple targets... "shoot them all, tag them later" is not only accepted but it is expected practice in most of the camps I have hunted in!
Even animals that are well hit can go a long ways and usually into the thickest ####-hole swamp it can find. This can cause the loss of a deer that may well die and for the guys that have lost deer in this way they will tell you to keep shooting until it drops unless you are 100% certain it is not going anywhere!

I have used and needed semi-auto rifles and shotguns for deer, coyotes, jacks, birds of all descriptions, even just for fun.... heck mostly just for fun!
 
1shot said:
The only time I ever have needed "follow up" shots is when hunting ducks/geese, or a running rabbit with a semi .22lr.
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Another perfect shot in a perfect world :rolleyes:

What a wonderful place you must live in :confused:

Never mind, I guess after 35-40 yrs shooting I'll never be that good :redface:
 
senior said:
Another perfect shot in a perfect world :rolleyes:

What a wonderful place you must live in :confused:

Never mind, I guess after 35-40 yrs shooting I'll never be that good :redface:
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well, no ones's perfect, but I try to keep my kills to one shot. If I don't have a good shot, I don't shoot. Nobody in my camp would criticize for not taking an "iffy" shot. And I have let some big bucks go, because I didn't think I could get a good shot. I'm a hunter/shooter as well as a conservationist.:)
 
BIGREDD said:
Yeah... . Primarlily on multiple targets... "shoot them all, tag them later" is not only accepted but it is expected practice in most of the camps I have hunted in!

This must be where the term "flock shooting" came from.:eek: What's the accepted and expected practice when the number of fallen deer out number the total number of tags.:rolleyes: In British Columbia we have the Observe Record and Report Program where if a hunter sees this going on they report it to the authorities and it is one of the quickest ways I know for one to loose ones hunting privledges.;)
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My first black bear. Couldn't get a clean shot at the heart/lung so I decided to go for a head shot. He turned his head to face me as I fired. I hit him, but the bullet glanced off the roof of his mouth and exited out his jaw. He fell down but got up quicker than you could blink and bolted. I shot him twice more on the run befor he went down, less than 100 feet from the first shot.

I was useing my M-14, and if I had a bolt or pump, there would have been NO WAY I'd have been quick enough to hit him again (espehally being a lefty), and he would have died a very painful death somewhere in the woods.
 
I was useing my M-14, and if I had a bolt or pump, there would have been NO WAY I'd have been quick enough to hit him again (espehally being a lefty), and he would have died a very painful death somewhere in the woods.
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And the cause would have been poor shot selection,not a slower follow up shot.I will not take iffy shots in the hope that I can make up for a poor shot with a fast follow up shot.
 
Ljungman said:
I was useing my M-14, and if I had a bolt or pump, there would have been NO WAY I'd have been quick enough to hit him again (espehally being a lefty), and he would have died a very painful death somewhere in the woods.
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A pumpgun is just as fast as any semi, as the time it takes to recover from the initial shot is lots of time to work a pump. :)



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stubblejumper said:
And the cause would have been poor shot selection,not a slower follow up shot.I will not take iffy shots in the hope that I can make up for a poor shot with a fast follow up shot.
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He probably didn't know the bear was going to turn his head when he shot. Or he wouldn't have shot. So a fast follow up shot did make up for a poor first one, but he didn't know it was going to be poor when he took it. Makes sense to me.
 
Ljungman said:
My first black bear. Couldn't get a clean shot at the heart/lung so I decided to go for a head shot. He turned his head to face me as I fired. I hit him, but the bullet glanced off the roof of his mouth and exited out his jaw. He fell down but got up quicker than you could blink and bolted. I shot him twice more on the run befor he went down, less than 100 feet from the first shot.

I was useing my M-14, and if I had a bolt or pump, there would have been NO WAY I'd have been quick enough to hit him again (espehally being a lefty), and he would have died a very painful death somewhere in the woods.
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The only way I'd even consider shooting at an animal without "vitals" to shoot at, would be if he was charging me.
 
Last time I checked the BRAIN was a vital. And by all staderds it's perfectly acceptible to shoot for the head. As I said, and troyski2 pointed out, he turned his head while I was squeesing through. Be different if I was crackin' shots at the legs. In truth, if I think theres a good chance to hit the head on any animal I will take it. Haven't lost any big game animal that I've hit yet so I'll stick with it.
 
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Not to change the subject at all but...think if you used a .50bmg with an expanding tip (as per rules) on a moose broadside, would it still just go right through, or would you be looking at aboult 800lbs of minced moose meat only?:D
 
Last time I checked the BRAIN was a vital. And by all staderds it's perfectly acceptible to shoot for the head
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The brain is vital,but it is also a very small target that is easily missed as you yourself have proven.As to head shots being acceptable by all standards,maybe by your standards ,but many people would disagree for the very reason that your shot was not a fatal one.
 
Spitzer said:
Sometimes I wish I has a Browning .50cal mounted on my atv for those tuff shots.
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Here's mine ............ :D

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It's important to be confident in every shot you take, especially when it's at live game. However, I think theres a flaw in being overconfident, and it sounds as though there are a lot of people posting in this thread who seem to display this flaw.

Most of the deer/moose I've taken have dropped in a single shot, but there have also been occasions where I've emptied my gun on a running deer to put it down. I don't believe in taking a shot that I dont think is a kill shot, but I also realize that myself and the conditions are never perfect, and if for whatever reason my first shot is not a kill shot I'd be disgusted with myself for not taking of having a quick enough second shot to do the job.

I use a lever BLR, but own a few bolts, I'd rarely or never take any of my bolts on a deer hunt with me because I know I can be lightning quick with the BLR (with no notable loss in accuracy) where as any of my bolts are, undeniably, a bit slower.

What I'm trying to say is, use whatever rifle you're comfortable with, and never take a shot that you don't think is an ethical kill shot, but don't be foolish and cocky and outright ridiculous enough to assume and suggest that you'll never need a follow up shot.
 
walksalot said:
This must be where the term "flock shooting" came from.:eek: What's the accepted and expected practice when the number of fallen deer out number the total number of tags.:rolleyes: In British Columbia we have the Observe Record and Report Program where if a hunter sees this going on they report it to the authorities and it is one of the quickest ways I know for one to loose ones hunting privledges.;)
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Well genius... that is why we have laws that determine how far away you can be from the other hunters in your party. Your assumption that we "would" or "could" shoot more than our number of tags in one sitting is not only presumptuous but almost "trailer park" in its audacity.:rolleyes:
It is brilliant individuals like you that cannot get your head around an acceptable and legal hunting practice that gives other hunters a bad name.
I would advise you to pull your head out of your ass but it is undoubtedly too swollen with over active brain cells.:p
Hooked another one.:)
 
SuperCub said:
A pumpgun is just as fast as any semi, as the time it takes to recover from the initial shot is lots of time to work a pump. :) sc
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I only wished you lived closer to me Super;) ... pumps are as fast as a semi... yeah right... and when the monkeys quit flying out your butt I'll take that bet for any money.:)
 
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