Title says it all, has anyone imported brass or bullets from the us? im looking into 50 BMG Brass and its a fraction of the price from the US. Ive googled and searched but i cant seem to find any info. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
Has anyone imported Brass/bullets from the USA ?
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Well, here are the facts as I know them, from multiple contacts with the Canadian Government. Canada has absolutely no issue with a Canadian citizen importing for personal use, gun parts for allowed firearms, all reloading components even ammo. But the US government as of 9-11 has changed the rules on their side of our supposedly friendly border. They have made it extremely expensive for any US business to export anything to Canada, so most won't. You as a Canadian citizen, need to have a US export licence which you can't ever seem to get ! Periodically the US will have border check stations that will check Canadian cars going back to Canada looking for these items, even simple items as brass once fired. If found to have these items they can and most likely will arrest you and make your life hell. Again our good friends and neighbors treat us like we are their enemies instead of their life long friends, what bull #### ! Free Trade, bull####, friendly neighbors, bull####. We treat them great, come on up and buy anything you want. That's the Canadian way of treating your friends, but not the Americans. Sad really ! It can be done, I know its done, but you are playing the odds.
In the United States we tell Polish jokes. (and they are mostly Catholic)
In Canada you tell Pakistani jokes. (and they are Muslims)
And in all honesty we just don't want to sell things that can be shot back at us or used to blow up aircraft and kill Americans.
You Canadians also tell a joke about "Why is the White House white" dating from 1812.
Don't feel bad, we can be slow learners, we just passed a new regulation stating returning servicemen with artificial limbs and orthopedic braces no longer have to take them off to get through airport security when coming home.
And if the Liberals are allowed to have their way here they will take away our right to keep and bear arms.
In Canada you tell Pakistani jokes. (and they are Muslims)
And in all honesty we just don't want to sell things that can be shot back at us or used to blow up aircraft and kill Americans.
You Canadians also tell a joke about "Why is the White House white" dating from 1812.
Don't feel bad, we can be slow learners, we just passed a new regulation stating returning servicemen with artificial limbs and orthopedic braces no longer have to take them off to get through airport security when coming home.
And if the Liberals are allowed to have their way here they will take away our right to keep and bear arms.
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The Canadian price in part reflects the cost of getting the product thru the thick border. USG paperwork and US export license fees have to be factored into the pricing.
For those that came in on this issue later, it is alleged the Canadian Liberal gov't of the day declined the 2001 USG offer of ITAR regulation waiver for small arms, ammunition and reloading component exports to Canada.
That choice was likely motivated by the same mindset that resulted in the passage of the anti-gun bill C-68 (Firearm Act) legislation in 1995 and later proclamation in 2001 by the same Canadian Liberal government.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/pol-leg/hist/con-eng.htm
http://www.fas.org/asmp/campaigns/control/Canadianexemptionsfoia/P3X.pdf
For those that came in on this issue later, it is alleged the Canadian Liberal gov't of the day declined the 2001 USG offer of ITAR regulation waiver for small arms, ammunition and reloading component exports to Canada.
That choice was likely motivated by the same mindset that resulted in the passage of the anti-gun bill C-68 (Firearm Act) legislation in 1995 and later proclamation in 2001 by the same Canadian Liberal government.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/pol-leg/hist/con-eng.htm
http://www.fas.org/asmp/campaigns/control/Canadianexemptionsfoia/P3X.pdf
You can try ReloadingInternational.com for bullets, they do all the USA export paperwork to legally ship bullets to you. I used them a couple of years ago and everything went fine, you just have to send them your International Import Certificate and signed purchase order, they explain it all on their web site under the heading: Ordering Instructions for Canada.
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Seriously?? IS that the true mindset? I hope you were being sarcastic.
That scares me to no end if it is like that , that is mass paranoia.
Nobody wants that in any form but it isn't gonna happen from guys buying product to go shoot targets or compete , restricting it will prevent nothing.If people want people can get.
I think any country has to look internally before they start thinking that way, and besides isn't the U.S. the source for the majority of the world's illegal arms trade?
Nice way for neighbors to treat each other, especially neighbors with vast resources that are supposed traded for each others benefit.,
That scares me to no end if it is like that , that is mass paranoia.
Nobody wants that in any form but it isn't gonna happen from guys buying product to go shoot targets or compete , restricting it will prevent nothing.If people want people can get.
I think any country has to look internally before they start thinking that way, and besides isn't the U.S. the source for the majority of the world's illegal arms trade?
Nice way for neighbors to treat each other, especially neighbors with vast resources that are supposed traded for each others benefit.,
I was being sarcastic, I didn't write these laws, and neither did 99.9999999 percent of the Americans you are criticizing. These laws were written by small minded politicians who can't see past their own noses. These laws are written by people within the State Department, Home land Security and other Government agencies who are only looking for job security and their own self interest.
But look on the bright side, you can export your timber to China so they can make chop sticks and in return Canada can import a Chinese copy of the American M14 rifle (M305) which is banned from importation to the U.S.
I am having difficulty coming up with an infraction proof reply. I'll try this.
You seem to have no idea how ignorant your message sounds.
What do you think your message sounds like from this side of the border?
How many AK47 and RPGs are made in the U.S.
Now do you actually think the Americans in your Canadian gun forums or any gun forum made up these laws?
Do your think Hornady, Sierra, Ruger, Remington, Winchester etc. made these stupid laws up?
Computer game consoles can't even be exported from the U.S. because some politician thinks a terrorist will turn it it into some kind of weapon.
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I guess I should specify about the guns, not saying they were manufactured in the U.S. but traded through and of course, no fault of the citizens or Alliant powder Co. You know Nickolas Cage scenario, always gotta follow the money.
I think Keltec was just floored by the statement in general because it is a realistic thought for some people in power.
Just amazing that in this day and age that people in power think that laws and regulations will stop people from doing illegal things.One thing that does blow my mind is the soda pop and junk food regulations that some want in place.
From a business stand point trade and sales to other countries only makes sense, how much maple syrup can we consume on our own.
When it boils down to it if I want to "terrorize" someone/someplace, I am not going to need to import anything to do it, can't figure out how they figure this can be controlled.
I think Keltec was just floored by the statement in general because it is a realistic thought for some people in power.
Just amazing that in this day and age that people in power think that laws and regulations will stop people from doing illegal things.One thing that does blow my mind is the soda pop and junk food regulations that some want in place.
From a business stand point trade and sales to other countries only makes sense, how much maple syrup can we consume on our own.
When it boils down to it if I want to "terrorize" someone/someplace, I am not going to need to import anything to do it, can't figure out how they figure this can be controlled.
Check around on this side of the fence.... I did just that when I had a 50 and found lots of brass for a buck each, didn't think that price was too bad at the time.
If you belong to a gun club put the word out, you may be surprised, a fellow club member might be sitting on some.
They aren't cheaper on some bullets. I just priced a 500 box of 69gr matchkings, and they were $7 cheaper than one of my Canadian suppliers, before paying the license fee of $12. When you add in the difference in shipping, I would be paying significantly more having them brought in from the USA.
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If you can afford to buy a 50 BMG and put optics on it you must also be willing to pay to play and feed it ammo. It is what it is.
1.75$ a piece for once fired from a dude on the EE isn't a bad deal in my opinion.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...46-Once-fired-50-BMG-brass***Only-200-left***
The US government has a long tradition of making sweeping changes in matters of importing and exporting, it should be no surprise that some of the changes affect us. We are such a small market that we have no leverage to get them to change. Truth is that things rarely change for the better. I accept the new reality, shoot cast bullets in a couple cartridges, support guys like Jerry, Henery, and tradex, and move on.
