Has anyone seen these kits yet?
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Aftermarket bullpup design stock is prohibited.
Aftermarket Bullpup stocks are prohibited in Canada. No way you will ever see these in Canada.
Because the government specifically prohibited bullpup stocks by law.
However, the way it is worded, the law targets add-on bullpup stocks, not bullpup designs such as the Tavor.
Yes, I shot a couple of these on July 13th with the CEO of the company, Rich Cabral. I posted a few photos of the shoot on my web site. I also did a review of them. If interested, I can copy and paste the review here.
SRSS BullDog 762 Range Report
by
Lee Emerson
100713
by
Lee Emerson
100713
On July 13, 2010, I met with Rich Cabral, owner of Short Rifle Stock Systems, Inc. www. shortrifles.com Rich served in the Marine Corps and the Army National Guard. He told me the story of how he was inspired in 2006 while in Iraq to create a short rifle stock for the M14 platform. Rich is very easy talk to and went out of his way to explain everything to satisfy my curiosity.
Three of the four photos that I posted from my quick range trip are already posted in this thread so I'll not post links. My web site is www. imageseek.com/m1a Go to the Photo Gallery and look on the first page of the Commercial M14 section. This is a free web site and no registration is required.
All the information I will share in this report came directly from Rich Cabral or from my own observations. The Bull Dog 762 stock adds 1 pound 4 ounces over a M14 assembled with a 1960s USGI stock and hand guard. The only parts that need to be removed from your M14/M1A to install the BullDog 762 stock system are the existing stock, hand guard and the rear sight assembly. The BullDog 762 will accommodate any contour of barrel. The balance is as mentioned above, just in front of the magazine. That was with both models I handled that you see in the photos. Because the action and magazine were closer to my body than the traditional design, I didn’t notice the extra 20 ounces.
The BullDog 762 is in its third generation of development. Production units are available for sale in black, tan or green. If you install a 16 " barrel with a SA, Inc. M1A SOCOM muzzle attachment, the overall length is long enough to keep it a Title 1 firearm under federal law, 26.5 ". IOW, it's not so short that it requires NFA registration as a Short Barreled Rifle. Note that you should check your state law for any restrictions on long gun length before installing the BullDog 762 stock.
The SRSS web site does not have all the SRSS options listed. I first saw the SRSS at the 2008 SHOT Show. The BullDog 762 has come a long way since then. The third generation stock system does not require any hand fitting of parts. The components are interchangeable from rifle to rifle. There are no foreign made parts in the BullDog 762 system so you're free to domesticate your Chinese M14 with this kit. The stock system is comprised of three major components, the cheek rest, the lower stock, and the top rail. The lower stock and top rail are CNC machined from a solid thirteen pound block of T6 alloy aluminum. Quality neoprene rubber is used for the butt pad and the integral rubber padding on the lower stock. Rich said they will be making their own pistol grip with a better angle to make magazine changes even easier. Presently, the BullDog 762 is assembled with a M16A2 grip.
I asked Rich about any issues with commercial parts fitting the SRSS. He said that if you use a Chinese M14 firing mechanism, the inlet for the trigger housing on the bottom of the lower stock will need a little Dremel work. However, if you let him know you will be using a Chinese trigger housing, they can machine the trigger housing inlet area on the lower stock when you place your order.
The lower stock has strips of neoprene rubber inserted into the lower stock body to form a a horseshoe for mating with the rear end of the receiver heel. This was done to fully seat the stock to the receiver while accommodating the differences in commercial receiver geometry. All tolerances on the BullDog 762 are held to within 0.003 ". Due to the varying dimensions on the receiver legs for commercial receivers, there were adjustments made in the original design so that now all commercial receivers will work in the BullDog 762. Rich explained that wood USGI stocks can vary up to 0.080 " in the magazine well width.
I love the safety on the BullDog 762. Rich explained that they went through about twenty different ideas before settling on the final design. They went with KISS, excellent! The safety is a cross pin that you push with your thumb or index finger of the firing hand to engage or disengage. It sits just above the pistol grip.
There are a number of options: ambidextrous operating rod handle, aramid sleeve for the cheek rest, coin slot fasteners (vice hex head) for the cheek rest, brass deflector for left-hand shooting, 6 “ versus 4 “ side rails, and a threaded detent for barrel tensioning. The side rails are made by Vltor Weapon Systems. The threaded detent is at the very front end of the lower stock body. It places 1/2 pounds of force upward against the barrel for accuracy enhancement. There are also attachment points on the left side of the stock for sling swivels.
The trigger bar that runs protected along the underside of the lower stock is made from heat treated stainless steel rod. The trigger bar is formed by machine so it stays interchangeable from stock to stock. You can use a rack grade or a match tuned firing mechanism. The longer barrel SRSS I shot had a heavy barrel and a match tuned trigger. The SRSS will accept either extended or USGI bolt locks.
The top rail is screwed into two steel mounting blocks along the barrel, over the chamber and between the legs of the gas cylinder. Aluminum and titanium alloys were tried but the 4140 steel blocks worked out best. Both mounting blocks slip over their respective portions of the barrel with no trouble. The rear steel block has a “dog leg” that fits over the receiver scope mount bolt hole. The “dog leg” of the rear mounting block is attached by threading a screw into the receiver scope mount bolt hole. As mentioned above, the front block is a two piece split clamp. IIRC, two screws attach the front mounting block around the barrel between the rear and front legs of the gas cylinder. The top rail gives 15 “ sight radius with Troy Industries BUIS iron sights.
You do not have to remove the gas system or the muzzle attachments to install the SRSS BullDog 762, just the stock, the hand guard and the rear sight assembly. You can field strip a M14 with a SRSS fairly quickly. You remove the four screws and slip off the cheek rest. Remove the firing mechanism and then pull the lower stock away from the barreled action. You’re then ready to remove the bolt and operating rod as you normally would.
Rich said that a Navy SEAL sniper instructor from Coronado has provided input into the BullDog 762. His ideas have included the coin slot fasteners for the cheek rest, the fully concealed firing mechanism under the cheek rest, and lightening holes in the lower stock to allow for faster water drainage. Navy SEALs tested the M14 rifles fitted into BullDog 762 stocks including running CQB drills at Coronado (photo on my web site). Rich explained that the Navy SEALs look for a weapon system that go from CQB to sniping without a lot of fuss. The Picatinny rail system makes that easy to accomplish. The silver colored long barrel SRSS in the photo above has a quick detachable scope base that allows the scope to keep its zero each time it is removed and then reinstalled. I don’t recall the brand name of the QD scope base, sorry.
Soldiers from the U. S. Army 5th Special Forces Group tested a M14 with a BullDog 762 stock system in Afghanistan (see Crane, David. "SRSS Bulldog762 Bullpup M14/M1A Battle Rifle Goes To Combat: SpecOps Tests Bulldog’s Bite." Defense Review: November 29, 2009. www. defensereview.com . Rich test fired a NFA Registered M14 type rifle in automatic fire fitted with the BullDog 762 stock at Front Site in Pahrump, NV. It worked just fine.
As you saw the photos above, I got some trigger time with both rifles. Both were very comfortable to hold. There were no sharp or rough edges. My personal preference is to not use a vertical foregrip. The green SRSS felt very natural to hold like a USGI stock. Rich said that the SRSS reduces felt recoil by 25 %. After shooting a couple magazines through two of the rifles, I strongly agree. The thick rubber butt pad, the straight line stock and the muzzle brake work well together.
We did not set up any targets as my schedule did not allow for me to stay as long as I wanted to. Both rifles operated flawlessly and they were fun to shoot. The biggest change, and an easy one to adapt to IMO, is operating the cross pin safety.
I plan on buying a tan color BullDog 762 stock for my next project. I’ve been looking for something to make use of my Norinco chromium plated 17 5/8 “ barrel. This is it. The price for the base model BullDog 762 is $1,275.00.
