have a issue with a new savage model 10 fcp-k 308 (cant sight in)

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ok so i woke up this morning and behold the jolly red guy left me a new savage model 10 fcp-k in 308... so i tossed on a Carson bi-pod and a leapers
8-32x50 mil-dot scope (yes i know its a el-cheapo but all i got)... anyways first 3 shots down the tube to sight in at 50 yards and shooting about .75 of a inch ... walked back to 100 yards group was about 1.25 inch (sorta expected for a new gun with only 3 shots down the tube) gun was shooting a little high (5 inches) adjusted the scope and this is when the fun started .. 3rd set of 3 shots group opened up to 3 inches and was to the right so i adjusted to the left 12 clicks (1/4 moa scope) well then the next 3 shots we 4 inches low and still 3 inches to the right) well on the 4th set of shots i was shooting about a 5-6 inch group .... the scope came off a remengton 700 sps 308 with a decent more recoil then this savage when on the remengton i was shooting .75 inch at 100 yards all day .... i took the scope ff the savage and put it on a lil 22 mag and once sighted in was getting .75-.95 inch groups ...... is it possible this scope will just no longer work for center fire rifles or is it possible there is something wrong with the rifle(highly doubt issue with rifle tho)........

side note i have ordered a bushnell 6500 elite 4.5-30x50 doa
 
Probably just that the scope can't take the beating of the larger rounds and your settings are moving around. Wait fort the Bushnell to arrive and all should be good.
 
My first thought is too remove the scope...backtrack all the way back to torquing the base screws and if they are obviously loose...some lock tite. Walk back up to the rings..same. Clean the gun...restart. Doing all that will eliminate human error, if the gun repeats this i would eliminate the scope and wait for your new one or at least another.

luckily, 308 ammo is not too expensive. Shoot some cheap factory stuff to get close. Its also great that shooting is fun. Santa didn't leave that new toy for you to look at. enjoy
 
My first thought is too remove the scope...backtrack all the way back to torquing the base screws and if they are obviously loose...some lock tite. Walk back up to the rings..same. Clean the gun...restart. Doing all that will eliminate human error, if the gun repeats this i would eliminate the scope and wait for your new one or at least another.

luckily, 308 ammo is not too expensive. Shoot some cheap factory stuff to get close. Its also great that shooting is fun. We are after all Gunnutz. Santa didn't leave that new toy for you to look at. enjoy
 
i did not clean the barrel but i did run a dry patch down it to make sure there was nothing in it ...everything was tighten down ....maybe ill just have to use the 22 for now ...between the scope im ording and the rings im getting costing around 1300 taxes in and only making 10.50 a hour it will be 2 months befor i have it ...side note i have already found out what lenght i need to relaod to when i start shoot it ...(not sure of proper name but i took a saw blade put a cut in a shell smithed the edges off place a projectial just in shell put the shell in chamber and closed the bolt...messured 2.815 so im thinking 2.800 will be just right)
 
I had issues with my FCP-K. It was WAAAAY off. Wasted 2 trips to the range and about 5 boxes of ammo getting frustrated, trying to sight it in. Turns out the barrel was off and needed to be replaced. That was 6 months ago. Savage still has the rifle and is processing a refund for me now (hopefully).

From all accounts I have heard they are fantastic and accurate rifles but be prepared for a wait if you need any sort of warranty work. They had/have an issue with their export permits so there are apparently no parts coming in to canada until sometime in 2014.

More than likely I just got a lemon but I'm still pretty peeved about it because I really did want to love that gun.
On a side note I have some leupold rings for an FCP-K i need to put on the EE...
 
my fcp-k was out of the box shooting .75 groups with factory ammo. Does better with handloads. The CAOL you talked about is something to play with. I reload mine about .0100 off the lands (i think was around 2.832" but notes not with me)...with Lapua 155s...sub MOA at 800meters and ragged 5 shots holes at 100meters when I am doing my job.

The Bi-pod may be loose as well, but I think most posts are probably correct on their assessment. Not every budget scope (I say this because not everyone can shell out $2000+ for glass) can deal with the recoil from the .308, I have had tried to help some people zero some lower end scopes marketed as "sniper" scopes with tall turrets, etc.. on other .308s and they can't hold a zero past 2 shots. If you haven't already try to lightly tap the turrets (with plastic hammer or end of screwdriver etc) after each adjustment to try and ensure they are not sticking and then moving under recoil between shots/adjustments. Make sure the break is tight and try with it off as well.

I did find as my barrel broke in it tightened up some as well. Good luck with it, they are solid shooters right out of the box!
 
I'd say its either an issue with rings or bases needing tightening or a rifle issue. You say the scope came off another 308 that its functioned on for a long time? That means to me that while it is a lower end scope, 3 rounds from a "new 308 rifle" is not something that would kill a scope. Especially if you put it back on another rifle and it functioned (you said the other rifle was a .22 but if the scope was busted the it would not work period). Don't know much about this rifle but if others are saying they've had QC issues then maybe ya need to look at the gun itself. I'd rule out for sure the tightening issues first though just to make sure.
 
Heavy recoil can obviously damage a scope, but a heavy-barrel .308 is not a particularly violent kicker. If it did damage your scope, it seems unlikely that the scope would continue to function properly when mounted onto a rimfire again. I think that following nowarningshot's advice is a good idea to eliminate mounting problems as a source of your woes.

And while I agree that a Leapers scope is not exactly high quality optical gear, I would never suggest spending $1300 on a new scope at the income level you mentioned. A less expensive scope, with perhaps a bit less magnification, could still serve you reasonably well without breaking the bank so completely.
 
Groups shot with a bipod off a bench can be hinky as well but I would be blaming your scope. The advice to ensure that the barrel is clean, base tight, rings tight and a good scope is good advice. Also, what ammo were you shooting?

I too would recommend against spending that much on a scope right now. I would look for a Bushnell 3200 10x scope to fill the gap for now. It's a good optic and very low priced but still very durable. I have one and you regularly find them on the EE for around $250, though they don't last very long. Look for one or even buy one new. Everyone should have one.
 
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Definitely pick up a Bushnell 10x. Like other have said its a great scope. There is no reason to waste money on cheaper stuff when such a good optic can be had for sub $300.
 
I have the same gun, and it needed to be cleaned VERY well during the break in period. Re tighten your mounts, rings, and check the torque on your action bolts mine were a little loose when I got it. The barrel was designed to shoot 165 - 167 gr bullets too not sure what you are feeding it.
 
Id say its not the scope if its working on a rimfire, sounds like something is loose, or barrel is not clean since groups are opening up, Also what ammo are you feeding it? Hopefully not surplus
 
Make sure your barrel is free floated too. I've had to open up the barrel channel on all 3 of my Savage rifles...including the Accustock on my FCP-K in .223.
 
Well - a lot of scopes go wonky when trying to adjust them in cold weather. I've found that anything cheaper than a 3200 is iffy as far a repeatability during adjustment in cold weather.
 
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