have to apply manual safety?

[ckc123]

And basically trying to figure if I can stay in Production.

Go check out the ipsc list of approved production guns. If the gun is on the list then its approved. Plain and simple staight from the horses mouth.

 

[pmt]

so is anybody other than me using a safety in Production?

No!

NOPe.
I removed the option of having an external safety the moment I got the $12 part. I accidently engaged the safety twice in one match; that was enough for me.

Install, the ambi-safety. On one side you're riding the safety with your thumb, on the other side your finger is under it.

 

[Rodent]

Go check out the ipsc list of approved production guns./QUOTE]

Where the heck do you find this list. I've viewed and read the IPSC manual on the Canuck website, but have yet to actually find an approved GUN List. Can someone please direct me to such list.

Thanks Again,
D

 

[Quigley]

http://www.ipsc.org/proddiv.php

 

[maurice]

No!


Install, the ambi-safety. On one side you're riding the safety with your thumb, on the other side your finger is under it.

thats too much work for me. I try to keep it simple.

 

[Slavex]

why do people always think DA is a disadvantaged way to start for Standard? It's not.
as for applying a safety to a decocked pistol in PD? Not a friggin chance. The trigger and my trigger finger are safety enough. Which is why I choose guns that don't have that option.

 

[Bartledan]

Not to mention, in real CZs, you can't apply the safety unless the gun is cocked.

 

[HKfan]

why do people always think DA is a disadvantaged way to start for Standard? It's not.
.

Would you mind explaining that some more?

My view (I disagree with you, but I am sure you have good reasons) is that in Standard you need to hit the ground running after the beep. IMHO, the first DA shot makes you slow down for your first shot (e.g. popper at 15m), and your second may not follow as fast after the shock of the transition.

It is only a tiny annoyance, but in my mind that is a disadvantage.

Of course this is stating the obvious - and I know that you are a top IPSC shooter so am curious about your reasons. Perhaps it is not a disadvantage for shooters at your level?

 

[ckc123]

why do people always think DA is a disadvantaged way to start for Standard? It's not.

How could a longer, and heavier trigger pull be on par with single action ?

1) The longer pull on the first shot will take longer to break
2) follow up shots will be "different" (DA Vs SA) and the shooter needs to compensate between the first and second shot (assume a starting paper target)
3) the weight of the trigger changes between the first and second shot

I'm talking purely the gun here. you can't evenly compare two different shooters in the same class, one shooting DA the other SA.

 

[dinsdale]

How does the time to take the safety off compare to the time required to fire DA accurately?

 

[ckc123]

How does the time to take the safety off compare to the time required to fire DA accurately?

It's doesn't.. I don't "Take the safety off", since my right thumb position is ALWAYS on top of the safety, as soon as the gun is cleared the holster, and I'm drawing the safety comes off automatically. There is no action of the thumb to take it off, when you grip and the thumb goes to it's position, then safety is automatically taken off.