Have you ever seen a weirder looking semi auto?

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Ech. Looks like they put it in some kind of a vise and squashed it flat as a pancake. The word "ergonomics" obviously is not in their vocabulary!
 
I must admit that "leonardj" has a real twist on gun humour and that's great because that last one is definitely the one I'd use as an instructional gun for Taliban types
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I THINK jimbo's pic is of a Haskell (basically a Hi-Point under another name), but there are a couple of different companies that made the same basic design.
That strawed screw/plug thing on the Bergmann that you're looking at is part of the magazine system; it holds the spring that operates a lifter arm that forces cartridges up out of a clip so they can be chambered, sort of like a Garand. The ammo (5mm Bergmann) came in little clips of 5 rounds, and you loaded it by swinging down the cover on the right hand side of the pistol (the knurled button at the bottom of the pistol is part of the cover latch/handle), then dropping in a clip and closing the door back up. Here's a shot of what the other side with a clip in place looks like:

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SDC said:
I THINK jimbo's pic is of a Haskell (basically a Hi-Point under another name), but there are a couple of different companies that made the same basic design.
That strawed screw/plug thing on the Bergmann that you're looking at is part of the magazine system; it holds the spring that operates a lifter arm that forces cartridges up out of a clip so they can be chambered, sort of like a Garand. The ammo (5mm Bergmann) came in little clips of 5 rounds, and you loaded it by swinging down the cover on the right hand side of the pistol (the knurled button at the bottom of the pistol is part of the cover latch/handle), then dropping in a clip and closing the door back up. Here's a shot of what the other side with a clip in place looks like:

Bergmann-1221-l.jpg

Thanks for posting this, I've never seen one before opened up! Was it a straight blow back action?
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Thanks for posting this, I've never seen one before opened up! Was it a straight blow back action?

Yep, straight blow-back; the weirdest thing about this pistol was that the first versions didn't even have any sort of extractor, the pistol just worked through "retained gas" to get the empties out, so the first versions of the ammo didn't have any extractor rim or groove. After they were sold for a while, someone said "Hey, maybe we should have a way to UNLOAD these things", so they added the standard style of extractor and grooved cartridges (what they called the "neuer Art" or "new design").
 
I like the Steyr I owned 2 and sadly sold them as I needed to fund a stalking rifle. The only guns I have ever sold were my historic pistols as the ban meant that they were stored and I only got to shoot them about once a year!
 
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