Having a Crack at Buffalo soon. Update- Its On! PIC HEAVY pg6
- Thread starter WhelanLad
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Get a hold of some 220 Partitions and load them to the base for the .30/06 and you are good to go... shoot that gun BEFORE you head out to hunt... get comfortable with the handling and check the sights...
Edit; Boomer posted while I was typing... those Woodleigh's would be an excellent choice also...
Edit; Boomer posted while I was typing... those Woodleigh's would be an excellent choice also...
WL........once upon a time I held the same view as you, if I couldn't use my rifle and load, I wasn't too interested in hunting......HOWEVER.......this has changed over the years from several factors. I voiced this view to a very successful old hunter, to which he replied "A good hunter and shooter can hunt with any rifle and be successful" I thought about this a lot. I had a guy tell me the same thing about shooting pool, he said a good shooter will still win with a club............There is something to be said about this attitude. You will find that most very experienced hunters have at one time or another have had to use a rifle or load not belonging to them, it really doesn't detract from the hunt and does prove that a good hunter and shooter can use any gun and succeed.
I hunted my elephant with a rented camp 416 and factory ammo because the time frame and travel itinerary just would not allow the necessary arrangements to be made to use my own. This was a pick-up hunt due to cancellation and was put together on short order and using my own rifle just wasn't in the cards...........still made a perfect 1 shot frontal brain shot for an instant kill, proving that I could make this shot with a POS, which the Blaser was, that they had for me to use. Someone had left it as a tip and had stuck a recoil pad on top of the original LOP, the gun was a good inch to inch and half too long for me and fast follow up shots would have been difficult. However fast follow up shots were not needed and my PH was impressed with my shooting.
I would never have turned down this opportunity, at the price it was offered to me, just because I couldn't take my own rifle. After a while WL, the details like this just aren't that critical, being out and hunting something you have never hunted before, is far more important than what you hunt it with. I have also taken caribou with my son's 300 RUM, and 2 bears this spring with his 350 RM and I still wouldn't have turned down any of these hunts, even locally, because I didn't have a rifle of my own here to hunt with.
Like I said WL, a good hunter can hunt with anything, including a bow and still succeed. I don't think anyone on this forum would think any less of your skills as a hunter or you as a person because the circumstances of your hunt prevented you from using your own rifle. If they do then they are very inexperienced and their opinion really don't count for sh!t anyway!!!!!!!!!!
My vote is fly at 'er and have fun and don't sweat the small stuff, like what rifle is in your hands, because it is a very insignificant detail in the big hunting picture.
Douglas
I hunted my elephant with a rented camp 416 and factory ammo because the time frame and travel itinerary just would not allow the necessary arrangements to be made to use my own. This was a pick-up hunt due to cancellation and was put together on short order and using my own rifle just wasn't in the cards...........still made a perfect 1 shot frontal brain shot for an instant kill, proving that I could make this shot with a POS, which the Blaser was, that they had for me to use. Someone had left it as a tip and had stuck a recoil pad on top of the original LOP, the gun was a good inch to inch and half too long for me and fast follow up shots would have been difficult. However fast follow up shots were not needed and my PH was impressed with my shooting.
I would never have turned down this opportunity, at the price it was offered to me, just because I couldn't take my own rifle. After a while WL, the details like this just aren't that critical, being out and hunting something you have never hunted before, is far more important than what you hunt it with. I have also taken caribou with my son's 300 RUM, and 2 bears this spring with his 350 RM and I still wouldn't have turned down any of these hunts, even locally, because I didn't have a rifle of my own here to hunt with.
Like I said WL, a good hunter can hunt with anything, including a bow and still succeed. I don't think anyone on this forum would think any less of your skills as a hunter or you as a person because the circumstances of your hunt prevented you from using your own rifle. If they do then they are very inexperienced and their opinion really don't count for sh!t anyway!!!!!!!!!!
My vote is fly at 'er and have fun and don't sweat the small stuff, like what rifle is in your hands, because it is a very insignificant detail in the big hunting picture.
Douglas
arcticcathonda
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Southern Alberta
Buy the rifle after the hunt!
Guys Im going to go ahead with it, You are right, the part about the Borrowed rifle will come into it an create another part of the story that is.
So from around the 8th we will be off for around 10 days Hunting.
Apparently a spot of Barrmundi fishing will be on the cards also.
Apart from beating the Humidity, My choice for Rifle calibre is .308 and 30-06, One being a Howa and a possibility of the other being a Howa too, in a boyds LOL
Looks asthough the Woodleigh 180gr are the mates choice of projectile.
Cool... Will update as it happens.
WL
So from around the 8th we will be off for around 10 days Hunting.
Apparently a spot of Barrmundi fishing will be on the cards also.
Apart from beating the Humidity, My choice for Rifle calibre is .308 and 30-06, One being a Howa and a possibility of the other being a Howa too, in a boyds LOL
Looks asthough the Woodleigh 180gr are the mates choice of projectile.
Cool... Will update as it happens.
WL
Hey guys update on this thread..
ITS ON!!!
fly out on the 8th of august for 10 days in Arnhem land, Flights have been confirmed and the Northern Land Council Visitors permit has been done...
Looks like im borrowing either the .30-06sprg or the .308win for the pigs and buffalo..
hoping to throw a few casts for Barramundi aswell when waiting for tides an such to get on the floodplain an out of the mud etc for chasing buff.
Obviously.. many a photo to come
WL
ITS ON!!!
fly out on the 8th of august for 10 days in Arnhem land, Flights have been confirmed and the Northern Land Council Visitors permit has been done...
Looks like im borrowing either the .30-06sprg or the .308win for the pigs and buffalo..
hoping to throw a few casts for Barramundi aswell when waiting for tides an such to get on the floodplain an out of the mud etc for chasing buff.
Obviously.. many a photo to come
WL
........... sorsey.................
I'd like to try my Whelen on buffalo someday. This year's trip will be trying CEBs in the .458 alongside A-Frames and 380 grain Rhinos in the .375. I'm curious to see if the huge expansion of the Rhinos will bump the .375 into .45 Country, and whether the Safari Raptors are all they're cracked up to be.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I'm anxious to hear about your observations with the .375/380s. Pay particularly close attention to the penetration once the bullet has fully expanded. There is a theory that once expansion becomes too large, that stability and straight line penetration will be compromised, but I haven't observed this tendency. I anticipate you'll exceed 30" penetration, even with the bullet fully expanded; while my testing indicated straight line penetration, but it will be interesting to get a first hand account of this bullet's performance on a very heavy animal.
My experience with quality softs on buffalo is they all seem to penetrate until they smack into the hide on the far side. Very few make it through and I don't really want them to. What I'm hoping to establish is what they do before they get there.
When Kevin Robertson describes shoving his arm through the entrance wound up to his arm-pit and recovering the bullets like that I just sort of assume that the permanent wound channel is huge. Three times expansion is off the chart.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I'm pleased that I discovered the Rhino Bullets well before Kevin Robertson's second edition was published. He was impressed alright but since that time, I'm second guessing the wisdom of using those slugs for the purpose I originally had in mind, which is for bear work. Despite the fact that this type of shooting is up close where the velocity is highest, even a very big bear might not have sufficient density to allow that bullet to fully expand, and problem bears tend to be small sub-adults. So for my purposes, sure they'll work, but not conspicuously better than any number of lighter, faster expanding, flatter shooting slugs, that are easier to use in the general purpose role. Now should I ever have the opportunity to hunt bison in the Yukon . . .
I guess we'll see. Buffalo are so solid that what is ideal for them may be a little stiff for lighter game. I'm interested in whether the extra expanded diameter will close the gap on the .458. I see its role as specialty bullet.
