Having a hard time deciding between these

^ If you like the 92 great, it has an interesting history, but a couple things you say are a little off the mark. It is not a full stainless gun so silver coloured alloy doesn’t make it more valuable.

The accurate 92s are highly customized Army Markmen Unit versions that are not retailed. These units are rebuilt from the ground up. They are also probably a few gs.

The average 92 has combat accuracy. Which is just fine for the average plinker. But Even the factory target 92s are really not that accurate compared to the big dogs I understand. There is a guy in the US that has been reviewing all the high end 9mms. He was underwhelmed by the target version of the 92 (The most accurate 9s he shot were a P210 super target and a 2nd gen P226 X5 btw).

Anyway not trying to beat up on the 92 (I may go for a 92x or a M9A3 at some point) I just don't think it is objectively better than anything else on that list in any category.
 
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I think imchoosing to go with the Glock 17 Gen 5. I get an extra mag with it as well. So 3 mags total. I chose it because i seem to like Striker Fired guns better. I like knowing that Glock has the most parts and accesories and easy to find all of them. Its very reliable possibly the most reliable. I actually like the look of it as well. The Walther PPQ m2 seems great but the gun isnt in stock for me right and i hear parts and accesories aren't that plentiful and may be hard to get.

It's my first restricted firearm so I believe i made a good choice. I wont be firing it for a little while but i want to buy now incase a ban comes quickly etc.

The only think is safety. I hear the others guns are 'safer' fo beginners
 
Congrats on your choice. Follow the safety rules and do not put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to shoot and all will be fine.
Also, make sure you get a good quality holster as well as be careful while drawing and re-holstering. These are the areas where a ND can happen with any handgun, not just a Glock.
 
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thanks. Burt do you think its more wise for a newb to get a SA/DA first? or doesnt matter at all
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It depends on you. If you are competent and very aware of your gun handling in all situations and surroundings and if you always put safety first, then you can handle anything. If you’re prone to clumsiness, forgetfulness and like to show off, then a DA/SA gun would be a bit safer. But in all honesty, if you don’t think you’re safe, then any gun will be dangerous no matter how many safeties are on it.
I tell my students I want them to be comfortable with their guns but never complacent.
 
P226 elite with srt is amazing. The glock is good.

The beretta is not worth it. The trigger sucks and not anywhere close to reliable as glock and sig.

Your buying a inox because it looks cool not because its better than glock and sig. Buy a used beretta in black. They show up hear and there for cheap on cgn. Buy a short reach trigger and d-spring. If not. Stick to p226 or g17. G19 fits better in my hand.

No experience with ppq m2 but people say great things about grip and trigger.

No experience with shadow but ppl always say good things.
 
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I bet the OP would be happier with a 1911 style 9mm. The triggers are great and no 2 pull characteristics. If the OP is doing range plinking, or even some IPSC, a 1911 would feel great and look classy. A really good affordable choice is the SR1911 from Ruger in 4.25" barrel or the 5" target model.
 
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The beretta is not worth it. The trigger sucks and not anywhere close to reliable as glock and sig. QUOTE]

What is your source for this?

Folks may or may not like the Beretta for various reasons but I know of nobody who would suggest the 92FS in not a reliable pistol. I think I would be hard pressed to suggest most of the mainstream pistols are not reliable shooters. You might want to do some research on the reliability of the 92 platform. You might be surprised. There isn't enough daylight between the trigger of a stock 92FS, Sig 226 with or without the SRT, or the SP-01 Shadow to read a newspaper headline. I have all three and with comparable springs the DA/SA pull might as well be identical when shooting the guns. All three have their followings, as do Glocks, Walthers, FN's and M&P's. They all do well for what they are designed to do.

Take Care

Bob
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sunjeep24 said:
The beretta is not worth it. The trigger sucks and not anywhere close to reliable as glock and sig. QUOTE]

What is your source for this?

Folks may or may not like the Beretta for various reasons but I know of nobody who would suggest the 92FS in not a reliable pistol. I think I would be hard pressed to suggest most of the mainstream pistols are not reliable shooters. You might want to do some research on the reliability of the 92 platform. You might be surprised. There isn't enough daylight between the trigger of a stock 92FS, Sig 226 with or without the SRT, or the SP-01 Shadow to read a newspaper headline. I have all three and with comparable springs the DA/SA pull might as well be identical when shooting the guns. All three have their followings, as do Glocks, Walthers, FN's and M&P's. They all do well for what they are designed to do.

Take Care

Bob
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All great pistols, but based on experience, the CZ has a better trigger (for me). The Beretta and the SIG have longer take-up in my experience; the CZ feels like it is a smoother take up in double action and may even be lighter.
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Hamsta said:
I bet the OP would be happier with a 1911 style 9mm. The triggers are great and no 2 pull characteristics. If the OP is doing range plinking, or even some IPSC, a 1911 would feel great and look classy. A really good affordable choice is the SR1911 from Ruger in 4.25" barrel or the 5" target model.
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Agreed!
 
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Canuck44 said:
All great pistols, but based on experience, the CZ has a better trigger (for me). The Beretta and the SIG have longer take-up in my experience; the CZ feels like it is a smoother take up in double action and may even be lighter.
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I think your assessment is spot on, provided the guns are sprung the same. The Shadow I have now was made in 2015. In stock form the trigger was heavier than either my Sig Mke 25 and about the same as my 92A1. In short nothing special. The 92A1 sports the D Spring, and with a 13# hammer spring the Shadow now is much lighter. The take up in all three is a bit different but when shooting drills I can't honestly tell the difference one from the other. For playing the games, the Shadow is heavier of the three and as a result soaks up the recoil of the 9MM better. As you say all three are great pistols. One has a well deserved reputation for winning at IPSC and the other two are iconic military firearms with well deserved reputations for reliability. After some TLC, the hands of those with real talent, the three can be awesome performers.

Take Care

Bob
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I have a P226 and a Shadow 1 and while I really like both I find myself shooting the Shadow 1 more and it is accurate with minimal recoil in 9mm due to it being a comp gun that is heavy to absorb the recoil and reduce muzzle flip.
 
Sig226 - one of the first l bought and I still have one. Did my black badge with it.

Had Glock, felt like junk. Sold it.

A few years later I bought another one on super cheap sale... have been thinking to sell it for the last 4 months.There are way better strikers on the market for less price. No point to overpay for a name.
 
If I were to start all over, and I have owned most out thee with the exception of any hk. I would go base model 226 with e2 grip. End
 
Kosmonument said:
Glock 17 Gen 5. Most simple, reliable, practical of all. If I was only buying one, it'd be that.
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I have handled various models of Glock, and just can't get excited about them. Good pistols that really shoot, but in my hand they all feel like a plastic 2 X 4. I have also owned a bunch of hand guns over the years, and the only ones that have really stood out to me as comfortable, ergonomic, and consistently and inherently accurate (for me in no particular order):1911; these fit and fit almost everyone, and if they fit they will shoot.; CZ and CZ clones, again fit, and accuracy seem to be a given, and that goes for the Jericho and yes, the Norinco. All are all steel; the weight makes them pleasant shooting and stable. The Jericho has absolutely the best double action trigger pull out of the box of any pistol I have ever owned; not light, but even, smooth and a clean break. S/A trigger I would describe as "target grade" short takeup, clean break; short reset.

I found older SIGs triggers leave a lot to be desired, however the new short reset triggers are amazing; I still find the SIG one of the truly great pistol designs, but they don't fit my hand. Their decocker is the best of the decockers,
and makes the system on my Jericho seem very cumbersome in comparison; but with practice it is no longer an issue for me and works just fine.

We need to find what works for us; for me it was a fairly long journey.
 
many fall in love with the cz as soon as it settles in their hand. while I'm not a fan per 'say, they are highly regarded in match circles.
I keep it simple, glocks and 1911's ... let the hate begin lol.
 
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