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dquick> thats because of the 5 pages, there has only been about 3 actual responses to my original questions, and a whole lot of hijacking.
 
popcanhunter said:
dquick> thats because of the 5 pages, there has only been about 3 actual responses to my original questions, and a whole lot of hijacking.
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Probably finding a lot of people not wanting to touch the idea of a HD shotgun given the legalities, and giving any constructive feedback. If you had come into the board, asked about a good sub-500 dollar shotgun that is tactical - you might have had a better response. Just saying.
 
to those concerned with the future of gun ownership in canada;

there was another thread about bringing people to ranges to help maintain gun ownership in canada (great idea). somebody mentioned fighting amongst disciplines as a hinderance to the future of gun ownership in canada (very valid). as much as hunters and target shooters might not like it, prepping (hoarding things for events that will realistically never happen), could be considered a discipline. and even if its not, its still increased number of owners, and increased revenue of the industry, which both help your cause of continued ownership.

also, welcoming noobs that have questions that seem silly to you, and god forbit maybe answering his/her questions, might also help your cause. pouncing on noobs for asking the "wrong" questions will most likely deter some would-be gun owners.

guns are serious business. internet chat forums not so much. relax people.
 
tactical? haha, what tactical operation might i be undertaking that is more legal than preserving my life?

i knew hd was too taboo, and i should have gone with close quarters deer hunting, when hunting deer with opposable thumbs capable of grabbing guns away from me.

dont wanna discuss hd/tactical qualities of a shotgun... fine, np
wish to discuss canadian law... start a thread.
 
interesting;

Jim Morrow in Ottawa was eventually acquitted of shooting and killing a drug dealer that broke into his home. Morrow says the problem isn’t that self-defence isn’t recognized, it is that it can take 2-3 years to clear your name.
 
popcanhunter said:
tactical? haha, what tactical operation might i be undertaking that is more legal than preserving my life?

i knew hd was too taboo, and i should have gone with close quarters deer hunting, when hunting deer with opposable thumbs capable of grabbing guns away from me.

dont wanna discuss hd/tactical qualities of a shotgun... fine, np
wish to discuss canadian law... start a thread.
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It's all in your delivery - and the fact that this is your first post. Couple things - search the site, you might find your answer and at least you'd see that home defense is a pretty touchy subject here. These threads get done to death often. You bring up home defense and you immediately bring politics and law into it for a number of reasons.

These are the reasons you got the response you did. As for jumping on being a noob - as I said above, if you searched the site.....
 
ive done lots of searching and reading. i wanted to have a conversation i could partake in, and that i could get answers to my specific questions. not the ones i originally asked, but the ones that would have come up during the conversation.

me reading all historical threads; big huge hassle.
people skipping the thread because they dont wish to partake in yet another hd thread; absolutely no hassle.

the fact that it had been done to death is only relevant to those who feel obligated to partake in every thread. that should be nobody.
 
Thanks! Some very real and helpful info, much appreciated.

I am very concerned about laws of any jurisdiction I might be in, but it's simply beyond the intended scope of this thread.

In the event of an intruder; fleeing out the other end of the house would be my first choice. Barricade and bunker down would be second. I have no desire for any unnecessary sweeping and clearing. However, the children are at the other end of the house with an entry point between us, so tactical traveling around the house would be necessary before fleeing. Hopefully this could be done without encountering the intruder.

What advantage do you see with the 18 causing you to prefer that, if the spread pattern isn't different?

I get that a single 22 shot won't do much damage, but I assume it would be rather convincing. The value I saw was in the controllability and the ability to have 50 round drums. Would 30 quick shots not neutralize a threat? But give me the option of stopping after one or two, if he starts to retreat, allowing him to survive and my subsequent problems to be less
 
popcanhunter said:
Thanks! Some very real and helpful info, much appreciated.

I am very concerned about laws of any jurisdiction I might be in, but it's simply beyond the intended scope of this thread.

In the event of an intruder; fleeing out the other end of the house would be my first choice. Barricade and bunker down would be second. I have no desire for any unnecessary sweeping and clearing. However, the children are at the other end of the house with an entry point between us, so tactical traveling around the house would be necessary before fleeing. Hopefully this could be done without encountering the intruder.

What advantage do you see with the 18 causing you to prefer that, if the spread pattern isn't different?

I get that a single 22 shot won't do much damage, but I assume it would be rather convincing. The value I saw was in the controllability and the ability to have 50 round drums. Would 30 quick shots not neutralize a threat? But give me the option of stopping after one or two, if he starts to retreat, allowing him to survive and my subsequent problems to be less
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And there you go again with politically charged questions again. You need to really frame your questions differently.

22's are for target practice and very close up shooting. We used to hunt each other in the woods with 22 shorts. They wouldn't go through a denim jacket from 25 feet.

A longer barrel gives you more velocity and therefor more energy at impact. Less noise and generally easier to keep on target.
 
The shorter the barrel, the louder it is and the more muzzle blast you'll get with a given load.

This is very significant in a firearm that will likely be used indoors without the benefit of hearing protection, even with hearing protection the overpressure can be stunning.

The typical 18-20" barrel isn't too bad, relatively speaking, but go shorter and it starts getting wicked.
 
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