jlovie
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I see what you did there.
Heads Up BC - Anti Attack!
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I see what you did there.
And they would think that was a good idea??
Better still maybe the guberment should pay them for doing that..
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Trophy hunting was an acceptable practice many years ago.
Today it is nothing more than disgusting and sick.
It is a practice that many in the anti gun community oppose strongly as well.
Defending trophy hunting is not going to win over any of the people you need on your side at election time.
Today it is nothing more than disgusting and sick.
It is a practice that many in the anti gun community oppose strongly as well.
Defending trophy hunting is not going to win over any of the people you need on your side at election time.
elimsprint
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Define "Trophy Hunting" please and tell me why it is disgusting and sick.
It sounds about as intelligent as "Legal Free Speech", "Gun Crime" and other left wing rabble rousing phrases.
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Ya tbh, I {will} only Subsistence Hunt. I wouldn't kill anything, just for Sport./Trophy etc. Sure, if a Coyote {or any wild life} came on my property & was aggressive towards myself, animals/pets, attacked, or out hiking & same thing, sure. Personally, unless its for Food, or a direct threat, I let it be. If you hunt/kill it- I feel you should Eat it, or give the meat away to those who need it... but ya, mehh~ just my take on it. Cheerz ~
That is predator control, not trophy hunting. Trophy hunting is specifically hunting for the purpose of acquiring trophies.
Literally said I have no problem with trophy hunting. And why I don't think trophy hunters eat their kills? Because a large portion of them don't. Are you being serious right now?
That's not trophy hunting, that is conservation. You can harvest trophies from the animals you shoot, of course, but the main purpose isn't the trophies, it's population control.
Or I can continue to harvest the meat from animals I kill? What are you even talking about? I said I am not against trophy hunting so what point are you trying to make exactly? Because I don't think you quite understand yourself.
Trophy hunting is hunting for the express purpose of acquiring trophies. Sustenance hunting is hunting for the express purpose of food. Predator/population control is hunting for the express purpose of conservation. All are acceptable forms of hunting, because they all have their benefits to both hunter and prey, and tend to have some overlap. The only folk who think one form is more acceptable than the other only think so out of ignorance. Once educated on the matter they tend to change their minds. Heck, I've gotten hardcore vegans to agree that all forms of hunting are okay. Like with everything else, education is key.
Yes, you are a douche because you deliberately misinterpreted what I posted to fit whatever narrative in your head so you could make a stupid comment on it.
Why was it acceptable years ago and why is it sick now? At what point did it cross over from being acceptable to sick, and who made that decision?
IronNoggin
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Folks,
If as many of us that post here took the time to pen a letter or three, our message can and will be received.
If on the other hand some are simply content to snipe at each other here instead, the battle is already being lost...
Put this up as a bit of a Call To Action.
Hope at least some get the message...
Nog
If as many of us that post here took the time to pen a letter or three, our message can and will be received.
If on the other hand some are simply content to snipe at each other here instead, the battle is already being lost...
Put this up as a bit of a Call To Action.
Hope at least some get the message...
Nog
huntingfish
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It's part of the multi-facetted rewards of hunting. Not only were you able to beat a large animal whose survival instincts are honed to near perfection, you get some antlers/skull/whatever you can hang up above the fireplace (it IS part of the hunt as far as I'm concerned, but not the only thing about it) and/or get great tasting venison for the next year and you create life-longmemories of the adventure.
Hunting should include all of the above as far as I'm concerned, but not necessarily by the same person, ie: If a trophy hunter donates the meat to local people in need, that's fine with me.
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Your exact words were, “how could you shoot something and not want to eat it?”. Those words don’t leave much room for misinterpretation, especially when the poster shows a dead wolf and the accompanying text mentions wolves exclusively. You’ve since clarified that you are ok with shooting some animals and not eating them, but surely you can understand why your original statement was inflammatory for some?
bearkilr
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Why would you assume that trophy hunters don't eat the meat?
SAME..I could'nt continue paying extra on cable for all the high 5's and belly bumps by some good old boyz
I'm strictly a trophy hunter. The past 4 hunting seasons I never pulled the trigger on a whitetail buck, none were big enough. Every hunting season I pass-up at least 50 bucks, even 5 of them were in the 160's. There you go, 4 bucks survived, I didn't shoot anything, and you know what, I still had a great time in the wilderness. Trophy or non-trophy hunters, the anti's will always find something to complaint about, they just don't like hunters or hunting.
Trophy or not, we all hunt for the enjoyment of the sport, our ancestors were honed as hunters for survival and it's still in our genes ( at least in males). None of us needs to hunt to survive today but man's competitive nature is strong enough in some people to seek out the biggest, healthiest, strongest animals. The meat from these animals taken mostly for their trophy value is not wasted. In BC it is illegal to waste game meat, all harvested game ( except predators ) must be utilized. If the successful hunter on a guided trophy hunt doesn't want the meat the guide/outfitter has a long list of people that are only too happy to get it. Most of it goes to Indian reserves, beleve me it's not wasted even if it has to be backpacked out. Another point, how about mountain goats, mountain sheep, they are mostly hunted, even by residents, for the challenge as trophies. But the meat is still packed off the mountain and ends up in a freezer somewhere.
To me...........Trophy Hunting............is the picture of you, your gun and the trophy animal.....could be a ram, a lion, etc
Just shooting something very special to mount a head on your wall.
Disgusting and sick because it it just killing for the sake of killing and killing the very best of the target species.
Many things were acceptable a hundred years ago that are no longer acceptable today.
A lot of things were done out of ignorance, lack of knowledge or necessity.
Society and attitudes and has evolved over time as we learn from past mistakes.
A hundred years ago things were quite different on this planet, for one there were not very many humans.
We used to have Buffalo roaming the plains at one time too.
I am as big a firearms supporter as you will ever find, but my shooting has always been limited to non-live targets.
I understand that some people like to hunt for meat. I think many people can accept that including me.
Whether it is a North American or African trophy, killing the best of a species to collect a head.................This will bother more people than you think.
All these magazine covers showing a hunter and his dead trophy do more harm than good in portraying the firearms hobby.
elimsprint
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So what you are saying is that hunters should only shoot small animals and not any big ones?
You do realize that the big ones have passed on their genes many times over the years as they grew to trophy animals do you not?
What's wrong with mounting a head on the wall or taking a picture with the animal you harvested? It offends somebody? Just about anything you do offends somebody in todays society or so it seems.
Or is that you have drunk the koolaid and really believe that all the meat from large "trophy" animals is wasted as the antis would have you believe, because it is not.
Here in BC it is illegal to leave the meat as I would imagine it is in most provinces. In Africa the guides and tribespeople take it if it is not shipped home.
Show me one instance that you can prove the meat wasn't utilized in modern "trophy hunting" in NA other than the meat of predators and that person wasn't charged with a crime.
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In the bad old days of Trophy Hunting in BC, the Outfits relied heavily on Native Guides, Wranglers, Flunkies, etc. This brought employment that was otherwise scarce. A crew can also eat a lot of meat and the camp staff would even dry the meat from "Trophy" animals, this in turn lowered the pressure on the animals they usually hunted, mostly females and young. The Flunkies sometimes weren't even paid at all, a full belly, a change of pace, and dried meat being all they got.
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Feel the same way! Imo, a lot of outfitters and "reality" show outfitters are in for more money and bragging rights only, nothing else.
It is not about conservation, food source, predator control, way of life,... It is the COIN that counts!
I've shot animals which I did not eat and have zero regrets about it but going out and shoot a food source animal only for "I have the biggest (####!)" does not go well with my hunting ethics.
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