Heads Up Guys,Change in Shipping Firearms with Canada Post

Dusty, i sure hope that that is right.I wonder what is up with what is written in the new regs she had. Did your post office let you see it as well.

I don't even know if she was supposed to show it to me or not.

It would have to be publicly accesible wouldn't it?


Fallguy,You are %100 right that is what i should have done or just not bothered to say anything at all.

I wouldn't want to get her in trouble by phoning and asking as she is a really nice person.

Do you think that the way it is written it is being misunderstood or something?
 
Mauser98,I believe That is excactly what she showed me but I couldn't remember excactly what was written.

I must have overlooked the part about the CFC as like i said she phoned and asked about it after telling me that but i don't remember reading that part for myself.
 
PeakXV said:
.... More of a chance that it will get lost if you labelled it "GUN".;)
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There is nothing to say that it has to be labled as such, just that it has to be shipped by the most secure method. Nothing says that you have a requirment to reveal the contents there.
 
do they randomly open packages?
do they x-ray them?
is there any mean they select those for inspection?
they sure know that no sane person is going to declare them, but likt it has been said, the business' don't care for my bottom $

Soon enough they'll institute a tax for fondling my firearms.... as they don't tax us enough....
 
I was told the same thing last week when I went to get the shipping cost for one that was boxed up. The difference wasn't too bad though.
 
yah i was asked - was told new rules to shipping guns - never asked waht they were - gives a little more meaning to the phrase "plus shipping "
 
Here's an example of how much more it will cost me shipping my next firearm
It beeing shipped in a standard 47x7x3.5 gun box weight 10 lbs approx.

$18.65 reg parcel
$20.79 Xpress Post
$30.59 Priority

These are with no insurance. I would argue that shipping with Xpress Post with signiture is just as secure as Priority.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Identification, as a firearm, encourages theft.
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Yup...labelling any package that contains a valuable does..

This does not make sense....The CFC cannot release any information about anybody under the privacy act...expecially to some part time postal clerk at the local shoppers drug mart...
Wil they have special lockups for guns ?...built in every postal outlet ? $$$$$$$ ...I doubt it........

There is no way Canada Post will start the use of bills of lading like courier companies...to identify the package content.....their costs would skyrocket...service would suffer and theft would increase....
 
Seems like another way that CP is trying to make more money. They likely know that they are the cheapest option right now. Maybe an enquiry to local mp would be worth it???
 
Maybe the ugliest factor in this new rule.....

...or any new rule, especially in a Government service, is the "interpretation" by individual employees. Some who are anti's will push it to the limits and beyond. Just more rules made by some gun hater to make things more restrictive for lawful firearms owners. Do the nits responsible for these regulations think that criminals are shipping firearms by Canada Post? Take a look back at parcel post rates since ebay began. Canada Post has pushed the price to the outer limits. What else could we expect? Canada Eh?
 
I will elaborate on my short post.
The term "most secure method" has come up in relation to the mailing of firearms previously. Priority is considered more secure than Xpress or Expedited with signature by CP, apparently becuse the parcel is in their hands for a shorter period of time. Less opportunity for it to go astray. There has been no other report that CPC will require PAL information, or evidence of legallity before accepting a parcel containing a firearm prior to accepting it for delivery. It is CP practice to post information about restricted items and require a declaration that a packet does not contain unacceptable goods. The CP website suggests that information about mailing firearms be obtained from CFC, 1-800-731-4000.
As far as I know, the CFC does not mandate the use of Priority. My next stop is to check the CFC website to see if there are new regulations posted there. If I can find anything there, I will report it. Edit. I could find nothing new at the CFC website.
There is a section on the CP website listing changes effective Jan. 15th. There is no mention of Priority being required for mailing firearms. The prohibition on mailing inert ordnance which was discussed earlier at CGN is there, and this prohibition was well publized. Most of the Jan. 15 changes relate to rates.
Concrete information - a formal policy statement, a posted copy of any regulations, links to a site, specific details, etc. would be useful. It is important to know exactly what the requirements are.
Some time ago, the x-raying of personal checked luggage at airports became routine. If there is a concern about attacks on aircraft, then it is only reasonable to expect that all goods travelling by air be x-rayed. This would include airfreight and mail travelling by air. If there are new additional requirements for mailing firearms, failure to comply with them - mailing "sporting goods" or a "tubular pressure containment device" would be a bad idea.
 
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Cpc........

####, any chance that these new reg's could be in response to an internal problem? Specifically I was thinking of theft by employees. Would shipping priority address that type of problem? If it is just to satisfy employees at the upper level who are pushing due to anti firearm sentiments then it is unacceptable. Is CPC not answerable to the Public who use the service?
 
The bottom line for any business is profit. Getting customers to use the most expensive option increases that for Cdn Post for providing the same service, i.e. item from A to B. That's my .02 on it.

And for the original post, why even discuss the contents of a parcel with them, even if you've known the postie for years. It's none of their business what you are sending as long as it's properly packed & you've paid for it.
 
SAKO220 said:
I guess i have noticed before on here and other forums that even if you just want to help anyone out there are always the type of guys that jump at the chance to call someone a liar or accuse them of fabricating something "just for the sake of making something up i guess".

I should have expected that response from some i guess.It's one of the reasons i rarely post anything.
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I think a lot of the "attitude" you feel is because there are a lot of "internet" stories made up all the time. I am always doubtful of some stories until I see "proof"... there are websites dedicated to stories that are "rumours" or just "false"... I am not saying your story is not true, but the internet is riddled with hoaxes.... if you could "get it in writing" or post an online link you would put all the doubters to shame.

I don't understand, if you are mailing something within Canada, how the post office would know what you are mailing. There is no declaration to fill out as when you mail outside the country. You simply mail a secure parcel and either take the included $100 of insurance or add additional insurance or other options. You don't have to state anywhere what you are shipping.

Now have they changed parcel requirements, where the contents must be declared?
 
Dave, there have been scathing posts on this site, where folks describe returning home from work to find a long box leaning against the front door - or a short box between the doors - and a forged signature on the slip. If there is a widespread problem, it is with contract delivery, not CP employees.
Whether Priority would address this issue, I don't know. Delivery to the destination would still be by a contractor.
CP would benefit financially if Priority were mandated. This is a premium service, with comensurate fees.
 
Hi Guntech, Yes you are right i have seen excactly those type of posts started and i should have thought about that myself before expecting anyone to blindly believe me.

I apologized to #### and he sure seems like a very nice guy.After his posts on here clarifying what he meant and talking to him via PM i understand completely what he was talking about and know he meant nothing at all against me.

I should have just talked to him first before posting.Lesson learned.


So i thought it would indeed be a good idea to go get it photocopied after all so everyone could see it and maybe could get something different out of the wording and find a loophole like maybe Xpreespost being as secure or something??

After i drove there A differant lady was working today and she would not let me photocopy it because it said "for internal use only" on it.

Shouldn't that info be freely available to the people who are using their service ??

She said she would phone a higher up and get back to me to see if she could get authorization to let me photocopy it but i didn't here back from her yet.

#### ,i had a bad experience with them myself just like you were saying about the many scathing reports of guns left on porches etc.

I had a gun that was damaged in shipping and getting the insurance out of them was a long time to say the least.

So to you guys who suggest not using priority post and just not saying what was in it.Does anyone know if it did happen to be damaged lost or whatever would you still have legal grounds for the insurance money?

Or buy not shipping it priority does that give them a legal out in not having to pay the insurance??

Robin.
 
SAKO220 said:
So to you guys who suggest not using priority post and just not saying what was in it.Does anyone know if it did happen to be damaged lost or whatever would you still have legal grounds for the insurance money?

Or buy not shipping it priority does that give them a legal out in not having to pay the insurance??

Robin.
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Insurance is insurance - if they fail to deliver a parcel, they must pay what the parcel was insured for. If you had the minimum of $100, that is what they would pay even if the actual value was $500 simply because you didn't insure it for $500. They do not insure for damage - they insure for loss only... So pack it well.

With "In Canada shipments", I am not aware that anyone has to declare what they are insuring - only the amount they want to insure the parcel for.

For well over 15 years now I have shipped many well packaged parcels prominently addressed across Canada and back and forth to the USA.... all have been either airmail or parcel post. The majority of them were not insured, some have simply had the included $100 worth of insurance regardless of value.

Nothing has ever gone missing or showed up damaged. Unless the person receiving the shipment requests full insurance and pays the exorbitant rate, I don't insure ... signature required mail works great as far as my experience has been.
 
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