Help a enfield/mauser dumbie!

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Well everyone, I got these two enfields, and one Turkish Mauser I know absolutly nothing about them, I have some pics below, can you tell me a value, model or anything else? Thanks for helping a dumbie :D

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Contestant #2

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And the Mauser

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Thanks for any help at all!
 
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Contestant number 1 appears to be a 'sporterized' Lee Enfield No 1 Mk III, contestant number 2 would appear to be a 'sporterized' Lee Enfield No 4. They'd probably fetch anywhere from 100-200$, likely around the 100-150$ mark. That's about all I can tell you, others will probably come along and give you more info.
 
The first Lee Enfield is a No.1 MkIII of some sort. The rear sight being on the barrel in front of the receiver is the obvious distinction from the No.4s. The second is a No.4Mk1. They have been "sporterized" or "bubbafied', so the forestocks have been cut back and the handguards on top of the barrel removed, and the No1 may have had its muzzle chopped slightly - I'm not familiar enough with these to tell from that picture. If the bores are clean and not too worn and they shoot reasonably well, I agree with happydude's estimate of their likely market value.

I don't know Mausers well enough to help with that.
 
The last one is not a #4 I think. There is no butt socket and the left hand side of the action is not a #4 action. It is rounded and the LHS of a #4 is flat! The first one is a #4 action.

Also the magazine looks wrong!
 
Contestant #3 is a sporterized mauser '98, still has a stepped barrel, no sights, drilled and tapped for scope rings. Chambered for 8mm mauser or 8x57 originally, but could be rechambered to 8mm.06 (basically a 8mm bullet in a 30.06 casing). Can't tell if the bolt has been forged. Value is between $100 to $150. It is highly unlikely, but do the serial numbers match the bolt, shroud, safety, and barrel. Any other stamps, or worn crests? If interested in selling the Turk, pm me.
 
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No 1 is a No1 MkIII or MkIII* I can't see all the pictures for some reason, but I'm fairly sure from what I can see its a MkIII*, perhaps a early FTR, but it has the old button style cocking piece, not the newer slab sided one that would indicate a later FTR. Metal looks all intact so good candidate for restoration, oh and Canadian proof marked + $25.

No2 is a No4 Mk1 not a MK1* note the bolt release, and not a MK2, note the reinforcing band. Also a good candidate for restoration as all the metal looks intact. Now if it was a longbranch it would be worth more but I dont think it is based on the rounded safety. Also I suspect it has been FTR'ed but I may be wrong, but the barrel appears to be marked (on the wrong side) 1944, and if I'm not mistaken all the factories were producing the Mk1* in 44. Trigger guard is made of stamped metal not machined so its a mid-war production.

Rifle 3 is a ???? mauser, not my area
 
Gibbs505 said:
OK I got the #'s wrong!!
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Did you ever:)


the last one looks like a sporterized turkish mauser. if the barrel is good, it could be a good candidate for a custom lots of the work is done already
IE it has been drilled and tapped and it has the Gibbs company detatchable clip installed
a few more pics would help determine the mauser like is there a crest on the reciever ring?
the turks used a large ring action with a longer reciever and a smaller thread and shank diameter
same as the 95 actions
 
# 1 -No.1 Mklll* Canadian issue , sportered wood.
I'm saying Mklll* only because of the rearsight that does not have the Mklll windage adjuster and figuring that it's the original sight. There may be a number on the bottomside of the sight which should/may match the rifles serial number.
I'd be tempted to restore that one , eh ?.

#2 - No.4 Mk1 , sportered wood . Easily restorable.
We could learn more if we could know the first 4 digits ( letters included) of the serial number or whats stamped on the left side of the receiver .
The Mk1 began production in 1941 , including Longbranch and Savage Arms. After about a year Longbranch and Savage began producing the Mk1* These were the only 2 factories that produced the Mk1* . Chances are it's a Brit model ,( Fazakerley , Maltby or Shirley ) but the stocks look birch which were usually used for Sav. and some LB. No.4's . There's not many Mk1 Sav. or LB's around.

Both these rifles in very good condition are sold from $125 to $150 in the local gunshops here . Private sale - $75 to $100
 
Check and see if the first one has the C with the arrow through it on the Barrell as well. Both of the Enfields would look good in new wood.
 
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