Help. Enfield Worth anything??

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I have my dads enfield and he was thinking of selling it to help fund a new deer rifle. I know pretty much nothing about this gun so I was hoping you guys could help me out.

Markings.

on Barrel - MADE IN ENGLAND with a B and I stamped over top. Also has a star with what looks like 14 stamped in the middle of it.
also NP .303" 18.5 TONS

Left side No 4 MK 1
also B. 1942 Q54XX

Bolt has N.67.MK.2

On sight P
CR318


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Perhaps less - looks like someone has circumcised it.

Many sporterized Enfields are candidates for rebuilding via local artists like Lou The Pou, but once they've had their barrels bobbed (never understood why the hell someone would do that) they're pretty much out of the running for that process.

For what Dad would get for it, he might want to hold onto it. It'd make an excellent truck gun, assuming it still shoots well, and if he's carried it around the woods for a few years, your kids might want it someday. We still have my Grandpa's beater enfield ("The Bullthrower") and we'll never deal it.
 
Hard to tell if the barrel has been cut though. Jay007, can you post a pic of the front of the barrel? If the rifle's metal hasn't been tampered with, it could be a good candidate for a refurb.

With mag, as mrclean said, about $150 tops (with a magazine, and a really good bore).

Lou
 
Yep, it's been snipped, The barrel has been cut by an inch and a bit. Prices range from $100 to $125 if the bore is mint...
 
Well not quite the good news I was hoping for, although the bore looks good, and I know the gun functions well.
Also I do not have a mag for it, what kind of price would it be to pick up a mag??
Also what would be my options for putting a scope on?
 
Magazines run in the $50 range. If you can find one. I scored one for $20 in a local shop, but I'm sure deals like that are not the easiest to find. If you could settle for a 4 round magazine for it, that sits flush with the bottom of the mag well, PM me. I've got one just sitting around.

I'd say forget about the scope and just get a blade for the front sight base. Not sure who in Canada has any, but numerich has them in the $3 neighbourhood
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jay007 said:
Well not quite the good news I was hoping for, although the bore looks good, and I know the gun functions well.
Also I do not have a mag for it, what kind of price would it be to pick up a mag??
Also what would be my options for putting a scope on?
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You could put on a no drill scope mount like ATI has, but since it's already beyond restoration probably best to get a qualified gunsmith to put one on for you. It'll be more stable.
 
I say find a mag and a new front sight blade and call tis your truck / boat gun. Keep your Dad's rifle in the family - one day it may have sentimetal value for you. You might get $50 for this rifle in it's current condition so keep it.
 
Also with ATI being mentioned, I looked at their site, and is there a canadian dealer I could order their monte carlo stock and scope mount???

If the guns only worth 100 bucks, I think I might as well just put a little effort into it and make it into a deer rifle.

On a side note the gun has no sentimental value, as it was taken as a debt payment from an auntie's dead beat ex husband some years ago. long story haha
 
The damage has been done. The milsurp purists will hate, but it's your gun :) If it was mine:

Remove the charger bridge and rear sight.
Give the while gun a good scrub and polish with fine sandpaper and a scotch brite wheel
Re blue.
Drill and tap for a good mount (the no gunsmith ones are REALLY high).
Cut the barrel again down to 18.5 and recrown.
Synthetic aftermarket stock and bed it.

After you've spent enough money to go buy a brand new Savage, you'll have a gun that will shoot minute of meat all day, that's all steel, and more durable than you'll ever need. Pick up that 4 round mag from Farva :)
 
Riflechair said:
I say find a mag and a new front sight blade and call tis your truck / boat gun. Keep your Dad's rifle in the family - one day it may have sentimetal value for you. You might get $50 for this rifle in it's current condition so keep it.
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I agree, pick up that 4 rd mag and a sight blade and call er good.

Don't put any money into this rifle.
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
Perhaps less - looks like someone has circumcised it.

Many sporterized Enfields are candidates for rebuilding via local artists like Lou The Pou, but once they've had their barrels bobbed (never understood why the hell someone would do that) they're pretty much out of the running for that process.

For what Dad would get for it, he might want to hold onto it. It'd make an excellent truck gun, assuming it still shoots well, and if he's carried it around the woods for a few years, your kids might want it someday. We still have my Grandpa's beater enfield ("The Bullthrower") and we'll never deal it.
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I nearly cried when I had a guy bring in a No1* MLE to sell, that had the barrel cut down... :(
 
Clean the sling with saddle soap and treat it with neatsfoot oil or mink oil or dubbin. The ATI stock is not a significant improvement over the wood stock. Take that off it you want, steam out any dents as much as is easy, soak it in linseed oil, hand-rub the linseed oil to finish and put it back.

An original magazine will show up eventually, pay $50 if you are in a hurry and money comes easy, be patient and you may find one for $30, typical is $40. A gunsmith on the west coast, Bits of Pieces, sells 5 and 10 round magazines manufactured new in S.Africa by K-Mag. Get a front sight blade as others have said, they aren't expensive and the rear sight on these is quite good, I wouldn't sacrifice it to facilitate a scope mount. A Weaver TO-1 mount is less than $20 new and needs a gunsmith to drill and tap three holes. It uses tip-off rings which is less than ideal, but they work. Unless you use sight through rings, which raises the scope higher (and the Enfield No.4 will have the scope fairly high anyway), the iron sights will be obscured, but they won't be hurting anything and they'll be nice to have if something goes wrong with the scope in the field - just detach the scope with rings, and carry on hunting. Maybe look for a Beartooth comb-raising kit if you find the scope a bit high.

It did have a sight guard on it originally, and if you want one it can still be installed. The bit of barrel that was chopped off was around an inch and included the bayonet lugs. I think that's why some people did this - they thought the bayonet lugs were ugly. Machining the charger bridge and rear sight mount off is an expensive way to make the gun uglier and less useful.

If the bore is good, a magazine and a front sight blade is the minimum and you will have a useful hunting rifle.
 
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