Help I need a picture of a disassembled M-305 20 round magazine

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I had 6 AR magazine bodies seized by Canada customs. I am not aware of any law which considers a magazine body a prohibited device. The nice customs worker that I spoke to informed me that "it is the same as a disassembled pistol". I explained to him that only the reciever stripped or complete is considered a firearm under canadian law. I would like to include in my appeal letter a picture of an M-305 magazine disassembled. All the components of which are legal under canadian law even though the magazine body is an unaltered 20 round mag body. Any help would be appreciated.

Jasonburnsdundee
 
Here ya go, hope this helps
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I believe they're trying to interpret it as being a prohibited device if it's not permanently modified to a 5-round capacity. I don't know whether or not that's valid, but I believe they could probably make a case for it.

Best of luck with the case; keep us posted!

-M
 
Don't forget to include in your appeal the plan whereby you would have converted them to five round magazines, five rounders not being generally available for sale in the US since this is a Canadian specific law.
 
:pSorry to hijack but I broke a rivet in one of my 5/20 mags and wanted to re-rivet it, how do you take them apart. I did a practice on my crap little 5 rounder but ended up bending the crap out of the floor plate.

Back to topic ... I think your screwed. Im sure the law says no magazine parts that are not altered for max round capacity. But good luck anyway Bro
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Mr.4x4 said:
:pSorry to hijack but I broke a rivet in one of my 5/20 mags and wanted to re-rivet it, how do you take them apart.:D
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Slide a knife under the edge of the floorplate next to the tab that hooks it into the mag body and gently pry up just enough that you can ... push the floorplate with your thumb and it will slide right out.

I do this at gun shows all the time to check mags (with the permission of the owner of course) and it is really pretty simple.
 
Mr.4x4 said:
...Im sure the law says no magazine parts that are not altered for max round capacity. But good luck anyway Bro
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The law does not say any such thing.

CBSA operates on their own set of rules/policies, which may or may not be directly founded in law.

The 5/20s being imported are brought in as factory made 5 round magazines. Not as parts to be assembled in Canada, with whatever capacity the assembler chooses.

Basically these 5/20 magazines are irelevant to your challenge.

You might be able to get the CBSA to amend their policy though, and bar further importation of these 5/20s, though.
 
tiriaq said:
You might be able to get the CBSA to amend their policy though, and bar further importation of these 5/20s, though.
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The sort of voice of wisdom that young guys just will not heed.

I can't count how many times I've seen the "logic" of "I'll show them a similar case that they let through and it will force them to allow it", and the result is that the other case becomes prohibited.
 
Good luck with your appeal. Years ago I had 3 30 round AR15 Orlite mags siezed by CBSA, the mags were riveted and epoxied to hold 4 rounds. I lost the appeal when the RCMP lab tech used a drill press and got the mags to hold 24ish rounds each. CBSA enforces its own little rules that have no bearing on what the law is. When I called the appeals guy on that, I was told that Customs goes with whatever is on the D-Memo and just because you can buy mags that are riveted and epoxied in Canada, they are still not allowed to cross the border. CBSA seems to not give a #### what the law actually is. The icing on the cake was after the appeal was lost, ALL of my parcels for the next year and a half were opened and searched at the border. Some of my Honda parts took 8-10 weeks to cross the border...
 
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