Help identify Chinese 7.62x39...
- Thread starter copeland
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Why not get your own testing done? I assume you are in Vancouver. Take a primer to a lab and get some tests of your own. At least then you can call bullS##t and have the proof to back it up. Try this - ww w.caro.ca
we'll I'm one of those who also got screwed buy buying this overpriced ammo thinking it was noncorrosive. I thought Leverarms was a stand up company considering its a site sponsor, I was wrong. Thankfully this ammo hasn't been near my cz and my sks is not rusted. I will be filling a complaint with the BBB.
Ya, just jumping on the 1440 green crate 1972 ammo hate.
Thankfully I read enough on here to deduce that they would be corrosive. I was told by the retailer that they where NC -- the retailer bought them from lever who also said they where NC.
I've gone through about half a crate now, I just make sure I shoot a bunch of it when I bring it out -- or else the cleanup time isn't worth it.
However -- lol.. I didnt think much of my mags. So, if you have the 1972 stuff, make sure your also wiping down the top of the mags too!
Thankfully I read enough on here to deduce that they would be corrosive. I was told by the retailer that they where NC -- the retailer bought them from lever who also said they where NC.
I've gone through about half a crate now, I just make sure I shoot a bunch of it when I bring it out -- or else the cleanup time isn't worth it.
However -- lol.. I didnt think much of my mags. So, if you have the 1972 stuff, make sure your also wiping down the top of the mags too!
I have only ever had one problem with non corrosive chinese ammo.
It was milsurp ammo that was imported in boxes with "non corrosive" printed on the box.
The gun rusted after normal cleaning.
After that incident I take 2-3 minutes more to ad hot soapy water to the cleaning process - no more problem.
I also regard all milsurp and chinese ammo as corrosive. No rust yet.
It was milsurp ammo that was imported in boxes with "non corrosive" printed on the box.
The gun rusted after normal cleaning.
After that incident I take 2-3 minutes more to ad hot soapy water to the cleaning process - no more problem.
I also regard all milsurp and chinese ammo as corrosive. No rust yet.
- Location
- Coquitlam BC
Agreed.
Im thinking corrosive plus BC humidity are to blame. Ive been monitoring our humidity for my storage and we are truly living in a rain forest in BC.
Im thinking corrosive plus BC humidity are to blame. Ive been monitoring our humidity for my storage and we are truly living in a rain forest in BC.
Travis Bickle
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- Location
- Upper Lower Middle Alberta
The Norc .223 in the yellow boxes of 20 rounds/box state right on them that they are non corrosive if that's what you are talking about.
It's newly manufactured ammunition for the commercial market.
This stuff he is talking about is 1960's mainland Communist Chinese war stock lol And it's obviously corrosive.
But if the site is selling and advertising it at as Non Corrosive at inflated prices then yes, they are duping people.
There are a few other dealers selling this exact same ammo as "CORROSIVE" at a much much cheaper cost. About $220 a crate to be exact.
Trade-Ex for one which is where I got mine.
Which is why I find it highly unlikely that Lever would not be aware of this.
That Chinese 60's and 70's surplus is indeed corrosive. I bought three crates of it from Tradeex where it was priced reasonably and advertised as corrosive, which it damn well is. It's some of the cleaner and less smelly surplus I've fired in this caliber, but it's just as corrosive as anything else. Lever needs to realize they're lying, weather they mean it or not.
If they know that, and are still selling this stuff, well...yikes.
If they know that, and are still selling this stuff, well...yikes.
They know it, they still sell it and tell me they have done extensive testing. Ive got a post coming up with all my video results and trials of the primers. A moderator managed to lock my other post where it was really steaming along well and I was going to post all the results. Im guessing he is a supporter of lever and results to fascist censorship to get his way. Thats moderator tiriaq for anyone interested in knowing who it is stomping on rights. No matter, gives me an excuse to make another one.
The tests i did were simple, bright finish nail, nailed into a wood board and striking the primers with a hammer to detonate the primer a and its contents downwards onto the secure nail.
Anyways the instant results (yes vids are coming once ive finished the 24 hour period of corrosion)
MFS non corrosive, black powder on the nail, full black nail, typical results with no issues.
Corrosive 60/75 headstamp showed a yellowish residue mixed with the black of the powder, which i assume is the corrosive powder, no rusting yet after a couple hours.
Then i used two of the 31/72 head stamp chinese surplus "non" corrosive from lever arms. First lever arms primer i filmed going off, yellowy residue exactly similar to the residue from the corrosive primer on the 60/75, mixed with the black of the powder, no rust yet formed.
Second one i set off from lever arms was a whole different story. Upon removing the casing after the detonation, i noticed the nail was instantly covered in rust residue after detonation. I inspected the inners of the casing to find it full of caked rust. I had just pulled this casing out of hte same spam can, same case, same paper packaging as the one I had just detonated from lever arms with just the yellow residue.
So why is it full of rust, why is the nail now covered in rust and completely red from it. This isnt corrosive? Anyways im sure the other lever arms cartridge will yield rust. Like the labeled as corrosive primer 60/75, the yellow residue left by the lever arms 31/72 points to similar nature to the labeled corrosive 60/75 i have.
Yes the red lacquer seal was still around the bullet that had the rust.
The tests i did were simple, bright finish nail, nailed into a wood board and striking the primers with a hammer to detonate the primer a and its contents downwards onto the secure nail.
Anyways the instant results (yes vids are coming once ive finished the 24 hour period of corrosion)
MFS non corrosive, black powder on the nail, full black nail, typical results with no issues.
Corrosive 60/75 headstamp showed a yellowish residue mixed with the black of the powder, which i assume is the corrosive powder, no rusting yet after a couple hours.
Then i used two of the 31/72 head stamp chinese surplus "non" corrosive from lever arms. First lever arms primer i filmed going off, yellowy residue exactly similar to the residue from the corrosive primer on the 60/75, mixed with the black of the powder, no rust yet formed.
Second one i set off from lever arms was a whole different story. Upon removing the casing after the detonation, i noticed the nail was instantly covered in rust residue after detonation. I inspected the inners of the casing to find it full of caked rust. I had just pulled this casing out of hte same spam can, same case, same paper packaging as the one I had just detonated from lever arms with just the yellow residue.
So why is it full of rust, why is the nail now covered in rust and completely red from it. This isnt corrosive? Anyways im sure the other lever arms cartridge will yield rust. Like the labeled as corrosive primer 60/75, the yellow residue left by the lever arms 31/72 points to similar nature to the labeled corrosive 60/75 i have.
Yes the red lacquer seal was still around the bullet that had the rust.
Claimed it was going no where, it had a lot of customer reviews and overall input on the situation being generated. It definately had a negative tone towards lever arms, of course started by myself being the unsatisfied customer. But good reviews are just as deserved as bad reviews.. that's the way of capitalism and business lol.
Yeah the rust is a odd one.. not sure what to think on it, maybe just residue from the casings inside when the primer went covering it with the rust?
Yeah the rust is a odd one.. not sure what to think on it, maybe just residue from the casings inside when the primer went covering it with the rust?
