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338 Imperial

338 Imperial

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German made , Unique action.Random misfires...strikes look to be good . Soaked & cleaned thoroughly...?? thanks
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gaff said:
its a mod1, Deutsch werke .
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It is a Deutsch werke/Ortgies. I'm not sure if it's a model 1, as it has a rear sight on receiver. (the mod 1 had only the rear sight on the topcover). OP's seems to have both/two rear sights. (only 1 coffee so may have to edit)

Misfires are popular issue with these as the sear wears down, and won't hold the bolt. I had a project where the bolt itself had been rounded by a "folk-smith", I'm guessing in an effort to reduce trigger pull. It was made functional again by squaring off the bolt. These were "Boys rifles" in their day, and lots of fun can still be had with one.

In this thread you can see my pics of a mod1 (rear sight is folded up leaf on topcover only)

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1039050-Space-on-my-kitchen-table!
 
camster said:
It is a Deutsch werke/Ortgies. I'm not sure if it's a model 1, as it has a rear sight on receiver. (the mod 1 had only the rear sight on the topcover). OP's seems to have both/two rear sights. (only 1 coffee so may have to edit)

Misfires are popular issue with these as the sear wears down, and won't hold the bolt. I had a project where the bolt itself had been rounded by a "folk-smith", I'm guessing in an effort to reduce trigger pull. It was made functional again by squaring off the bolt. These were "Boys rifles" in their day, and lots of fun can still be had with one.

In this thread you can see my pics of a mod1 (rear sight is folded up leaf on topcover only)

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1039050-Space-on-my-kitchen-table!
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Thanks...can you advise on ( bolt assembly take down for better inspection / repair..??
 
The top cover is retained by 2x sideplates (in your pics one is marked D.R.P. Germany)
The bolt is 2 parts, striker and cocking knob/handle. Striker fits into knob, and is retained by a pin. It's the face of the cocking knob that is held/released by the sear (seen sticking up through stock in your pic #1)) on my project that face was rounded over instead of being squared off (I have no idea why).

I got lazy n' lucky and found a complete bolt n' top cover so I just swapped 'em out. A short while later a fellow CGN'er used my old one, but performed the necessary squaring off of the bolt knob.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-youth-Rifle-(Deutsche-Werke)?highlight=werke
 
As Camster points out, a few years ago I worked on one of these (thanks to him it turned out great!)

Indeed the firing pin's portion which was acting as the "cocking notch" needed to be squared again. But IIRC, there was also some drag on the pin which made for a weak strike - could be the case with 338 Imperial's rifle as well?
 
These are neat lil guns, but they are a definitely from another time. No redundancies as far as safety features, that is certain.
They have a very narrow window of safe operation. Open receiver, insert cartridge, close and shoot. ..thats it. That safety notch...um, no. Don't do that; just...don't, K?
The safety is kind of like the safety on a Sten gun, lot of spring behind it should it jump the notch.
 
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