Help identifying a Parker Hale

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I just picked up this parker hale in 30-06. It's got a piece broken off the forend, its missing the frontsight and the recoil pad is dried up but otherwise it is in decent shape. I got it for super cheap locally and honestly, it just looks like a neat rifle.

I'm wondering if anyone can help me identify it. The ad said it was a "Parker Hale Commercial M98" but I think it's a Parker Hale 1200. The serial number on the barrel is P-27###.
Trying to figure out a way of repairing the forend and looking for a new recoil pad is proving difficult.

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I have been having similar dilemma trying to ID various Parker Hale mausers. The "commercial" ones have a solid left side rail on the action - the M98 ones were made from military (I think) - they have that thumb cut into that left rail. At various times, Parker Hale sold both versions. When you dismantle that rifle, odds are good there will be the word "SPAIN" stamped along the side of the rear tang - and sometimes is ground or scratched away - sometimes still readable - I had read that PH was using receivers made at Santa Barbara arsenal for many years - Husqvarna and others were using nearly identical commercial receivers made by FN in Belgium.

Is also a thing about "C" profile or "H" profile inside that front receiver ring - whether left side bolt lug broach cut taken all the way through or not. I am pretty certain both styles were used by Parker Hale, but do not know how that relates to maker of which receiver...

Look along the barrel channel and inletting - might find the word "SILE" stamped into the wood - was a stock making company in Italy that supplied a lot of the wood stocks on many PH rifles.

Since made in England, it will have Birmingham stamps on the chamber - sometimes underneath the wood line - at or near bottom of the chamber on the barrel - that mark often small - like 1/8" tall - I use magnify glass - will be crossed swords - letter to left, a "B" to right, then Inspector number or letter below - can go on Internet - Hallowellco.com (?) and find table to get the date that stamping was done - based on the letters and numbers.

I had asked some time ago if there was a reference book to ID the various PH mauser based models - consensus of the CGN responders at that time was basically to start collecting old Parker Hale catalogues and see what was offered each year - multiple that looked similar, but maybe only the stock was different?? Had 1000, 1100, 1200, then 1000C, 1100C, 1200C, then Safari, then Safari Super, some had model name scrolled onto left side, some had nothing there. Some made for screw attached scope bases - some had the PH scope bases soldered or brazed on at factory - no screws used. And so on.

As per other recent CGN threads, many PH Mauser will not permit single feed - as were the original military Mausers, must be fed from magazine. I have a couple that way - can not drop a cartridge into chamber and close bolt without other manipulation. I also have some that the extractor claw face has been ground to permit single feeding - I do not know if that was done at Parker Hale or if done after market. As mentioned, some have detachable magazine (NOTE - three screws hold those actions to bottom metal - have to remove the release lever at front of trigger guard loop - look up inside for that third screw), and some have hinged floor plates. Multiple chamberings over the years, but not always every chambering, every year - so there is 243 Win on up to 308 Norma Mag here - I am sure there were bigger and smaller, but I do not own any.

At least two versions of adjustable trigger came with the Parker Hale rifles / Santa Barbara actions - should be able to find adjustment instructions for both on Internet - just make sure you have the correct one for the instructions that you found,
 
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Spare magazines - $pendy - yes, no kidding!!! And a bit of an oddity, I found. So seems all made to one same length - is the crimp grooves along the sides - hold cartridges to rear - is only apparent difference - say between a magazine for 243 Win / 308 Win and for a 270 Win / 30-06. A little nub or protrusion at the rear end seems to provide the lock-up - it wears. First PH 30-06 that I had - magazine fell out first time that I fired it at a deer - missed, of course - cycled bolt and took off running to try to get second shot - no mag in rifle - no cartridge in chamber for that second shot - had to walk back to spot that I had shot from first time to find that mag laying in snow on my tracks where I shot. That experience basically soured me on detachable magazines - I still prefer hinged floor plates or closed floor plates - 45 years later - as if technology did not progress??
 
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In all probability, you will need to fit a new recoil pad.
The repair to the forend is a straightforward one.
 
Tiriaq is likely quite correct about the recoil pad - there are two of us looking for the same replacement for PH 1200 TX - that kind of recoil pad with PH logo on the rear face - does not appear to exist any more. Several after-market - at least one version of Pachmyer (?) White Line looks similar from the side...
 
OP - maybe wandering off topic for you - but your rifle - for some time, Parker Hale used similar receiver, but heavy barrel, different stock, and sold it as Model 1200 TX. Was a target rifle, I think. Canada Military adopted it - different stock, installed Kahles 6x scope - kept the target aperture sights in the scope case - was the Canadian C3 sniper rifle. Then, some years later - only in Canada?? Military could not get approval for "new" sniper rifles, but got approvals to "upgrade" the C3's. Sent off to Parker Hale - new barrel, new receiver, new trigger, new stock, new mounts, new scope, new bottom metal, new detachable magazine - about only the bolt was actually re-used - was called the C3A1. So, according to someone, was not a "new" sniper rifle for Canada, but was an "upgrade" to the older C3 - which were PH 1200 TX, originally, which had nearly identical receiver to yours.
 
Some interesting history above! I have a Cooey single shot 12 ga that has a similar chip out of the forestock. My shooter buddy cut a similar chip off the other side and matched the two. Works.
 
Thanks Dan, I didn’t realize they were the same. Anything I found said it was either/or. Much appreciated.

Frank

Some people will differentiate between military 98's that PH used after ww2, and the commercial receivers (which are still of the 98 design), though most were made in Spain. There is little practical difference. The originals had the thimb cut in the left side of the receiver for stripper clip use, commercial ones dont. Varying triggers and safeties were used. There is also the 1200C, which has a detachable magazine. - dan
 
Oh man thanks for all this info fellas. Lots to look into.

I sent an email to a company in England that took all of the Parker Hale inventory as well as a gunsmith when they went out of business to ask if they have a new-old stock or used recoil pad in decent shape, hopefully they get back to me. If I can find any I will let you guys know. Failing that I may go to a grind to fit from limbsaver or lyman.

Mine is a drop-plate, no magazine on mine!

My plan to fix the broken piece on the forend was originally to shape a piece of walnut to fit the missing piece and joint it with a biscuit joiner but I'm thinking of cutting it smooth and cutting the other side to match.

When I get back home I'll remove the stock and see if any secrets are stamped to the receiver or action. I did notice that on the action-end of the barrel is what looks like a crown and the letters BNP stamped below it. Not quite sure what that means.
 
For sure the letters BNP went as part of the stampings when proofed at the Birmingham proof house. Had read others say that it stands for "Birmingham Nitro Proof", but I have not confirmed that.. Likely also found on the receiver and perhaps on the bolt handle?? The cross swords thing that dates the proof, is only found on the barrel chamber, so far as I have seen. Others may correct that??

I am suspecting that a "standard" fix would be to square up where that piece has broken off, then glue/clamp on a patch of similar wood, then re-contour inside and outside to match - then stain and refinish. I think. The top edge of the barrel channel should not be taking any load - although that one appears to have taken a strike from the front, to break that sliver off?? In my very few attempts at a similar patch, is like the cracks that I have tried to close up - really hard to do without getting a glue line showing.
 
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Flatten the split surface. Glue on a piece of walnut - the closer in colour, the better. After the glue has cured, contour. Rub in some finish.
 
Frank - could be? Not finding much to help you. An advert was posted to a thread I started about this in 2019 - shows a 1200 with a white bolt, but blued bolt handle, and 1100 with a blued bolt handle but hole drilled into the end - ad text said, for that year anyway, the 1100 was a Lightweight version. And then the Model 1000 shown which was described as an "standard" version. All had floor plates, or detach magazines. That picture is below - for whatever you can make from it: The poster, at the time, did not say what year that ad was from. None had stock design like yours or Hitzy's so must be from a different year?? I also notice Hitzy's stock and the three in picture below have a cross bolt below the front receiver ring - can not see that on yours?? The side views of your recoil pads are not the same either - does one or other have that PH logo on the rear face?

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I simply do not know the significance of the bolt colour - as if changed in some pattern every few years?? Do not know if the 1100 was always done as a LightWeight or not. Are your scope bases screwed on? - should be two screw head on top of each one - I have a couple PH rifle where bases have no screws - soldered or brazed on... Also notice your trigger colour - is golden coloured on the 1200 TX here, and some others here, but not all of them here are golden coloured - again, not sure what that is saying??? Might be another clue to ID the model?
 
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