Help identifying German Medals

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Hello I have been offered these on a trade but have no idea what they are, I've done a bit of google searching but even that is very limited as to what is out there.
Any help would be appreciated.

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I think the first is the older style totenkopf “death head” division insignia related to ( panzer) SS. Iron cross first class ( should be silver and number stamped, re silver content, on clasp).Iron cross second class( ribbon should not glow when under a black light, 3 piece construction, magnetic centre piece )and maybe an early SA badge( sword.) The last one may be related to the Workers Party ( part of the nazi gang)Whether they’re real is a different story and you’ll need an experienced appraiser to determine that. Possibly $5-800. No other memorabilia is more copied and faked than Nazi stuff. So look out !! Have fun !!
 
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Painkillers said:
Some of those look fake as hell. No age to them whatsoever.
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Thanks but I know they're not fakes.

I've known this gentleman a long time and he bought them when he lived in the UK before moving to Canada back in the 90's.
Now eldelry and downsizing so getting rid of some stuff.
 
jimmyjazz said:
Thanks but I know they're not fakes.

I've known this gentleman a long time and he bought them when he lived in the UK before moving to Canada back in the 90's.
Now eldelry and downsizing so getting rid of some stuff.
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That means nothing. They’ve been faked since May 8, 1945….

So many guys have been swindled by “vet bring backs”… yeah, brought back from the pawn shop…
 
Hey JimmyJazz (awessome feedback score there my friend) if you are looking to sell contact Peter at the Collectors Guild he has a depth and wealth of experience on the subject medals and badges, way more then "some guy on the internet says...." and I can vouch for him (and he is in Canada).

https://www.germanmilitaria.com/
 
XRCD011 said:
Hey JimmyJazz (awessome feedback score there my friend) if you are looking to sell contact Peter at the Collectors Guild he has a depth and wealth of experience on the subject medals and badges, way more then "some guy on the internet says...." and I can vouch for him (and he is in Canada).

https://www.germanmilitaria.com/
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Thanks, not looking to sell just looking for a value towards a trade.
I will contact Peter.

Cheers
 
No problem JJ. I for one feel your little collection is totally kosher. To appease the doubters I seem to recall a story that German POWs interned in Canada cast fake "Iron Crosses" from lead pipes and did a brisk trade for cigarettes for them with the Canadian guards. Also "trench art" was a thriving cottage industry by civilians behind the lines for sale to troops in WW1.
 
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Grizzly Adams said:
I have a problem with the inscription on the back of the SA badge, seems inappropriate and poor German spelling. :confused: Seems to say, property of the upper most SA leadership.

Grizz
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Now that I know what the SA badge is I was able to find the same inscription on other badges online.

WW2 German SA Sports Badge in Silver. Type 3 issue badge (1939-1944) with the inscription on the back “”Eigentum der Obersten S.A. Führung” or “Property of the SA Supreme Command”. Marker marked by W.Redo. Die struck steel (magnetic) badge with silver wash.
 
XRCD011 said:
No problem JJ. I for one feel your little collection is totally kosher. To appease the doubters I seem to recall a story that German POWs interned in Canada cast fake "Iron Crosses" from lead pipes and did a brisk trade for cigarettes for them with the Canadian guards. Also "trench art" was a thriving cottage industry by civilians behind the lines for sale to troops in WW1.
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Thanks, I think so as well, he has been collecting WWII stuff for decades.
 
That last round badge looks like it was repurposed as a button after four holes drilled in it. Repurposed German war material really took off post war, steel helmets repressed into pots and collanders, PZ60 heads (god only knows how they got the explosive fill out) made into tea sets and coffee pots come to mind.
 
XRCD011 said:
That last round badge looks like it was repurposed as a button after four holes drilled in it. Repurposed German war material really took off post war, steel helmets repressed into pots and collanders, PZ60 heads (god only knows how they got the explosive fill out) made into tea sets and coffee pots come to mind.
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I ithink the last actually was a button, it's only about 3/4" and looks like black plastic.
 
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