Help! I've royally Screwed up my Kar98K bolt!

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I got a Yugo 98K capture here. Don't ask me how I did it, but I disassembled and boiled the bolt parts to get all the old cosmoline out of it. Let dry overnight, reassembled and tested. Seemed to work good but the safety was not moving from the fire position. I removed from the rifle and couldn't get the bolt sleeve to unscrew, so I used a counter top to get some leverage on the cocking sleeve hook and pulled down. So then the cocking sleeve and safety came out.

Stupidly, I thought I could still get the bolt to fire so I put it back in the rifle and now I have the bolt stuck in the rifle in the fire position and can't move it! What's worse is that the safety and cocking sleeve are not on the bolt. I've stripped the entire rifle, even took the trigger off. I can't get the safety to slide all the way back on and the grooves inside the cocking sleeve are 90 degrees off and I can't move the firing pin either!

This is a real mess, I have no clue how I can lift the bolt to get it back out without the cocking sleeve or safety on the bolt? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!

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First of all. Please read or watch videos on proper disassembly before hand.

To properly disassemble the bolt you have to put the safty in the vertical position (Cocking peice is locked, but the bolt can still be operated)

Also, you have to #### it before you can operate the safety.
 
Ok, I think I know what happend. I tried to replicate what you did and I don't know how you managed to do it... the fireing pin is holding the bolt closed under the spring tension.

Take some pliers and pull on the back of the firing pin and rotate the bolt at the same time.
 
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Knowing that 2 people in history have done this to a Mauser bolt is wrong. Lots of people have done it. Mauser bolts are known for being, um, difficult to reassemble.
 
sunray said:
Knowing that 2 people in history have done this to a Mauser bolt is wrong. Lots of people have done it. Mauser bolts are known for being, um, difficult to reassemble.
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I took out the spring when I did my test. Seriously, Fonestar. I'm still flabbergasted of how you managed to remove the cocking peice and the safety?
 
I couldn't get the rear of the bolt to unscrew and I thought maybe there was too much tension on it so I tried removing the cocking piece using a counter to pull it down. Now I see that was a bad idea.
 
sunray said:
Knowing that 2 people in history have done this to a Mauser bolt is wrong. Lots of people have done it. Mauser bolts are known for being, um, difficult to reassemble.
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Mauser bolts are simple to disassemble and reassemble if you know how. How many other bolts are totally tool less to strip apart and reassemble?
 
Now for the fun part of trying to get the cocking knob back on the firing pin. It looks like I might need to get some extra thin needle nose pliers just to pull it out far enough.
 
fonestar said:
Now for the fun part of trying to get the cocking knob back on the firing pin. It looks like I might need to get some extra thin needle nose pliers just to pull it out far enough.
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Ok, hold on a second here. Completely disassemble the bolt and start from scratch before you do anything else!!! Revert to post #2. Learn how to do it properly!!!

When I tried to replicate what you did I noticed you probably didn't screw the firing pin assembly on fully. You have to depress the bolt shroud stop (spring loaded "button" on the bolt shroud) for it to pass the bolt handle, and keep going until it locks! Keeping in mind the safety has to be in the vertical position throughout the disassembly/assembly process!
 
Okay thanks again BeaverMeat but when I try depress the button it doesn't want to move at all, I know you're supposed to push it in and pass it over the bolt handle. That's why I thought I would have to put the cocking knob and safety back on first? So that the safety can be in the middle positon and the rear of the bolt would unthread?
 
fonestar said:
Okay thanks again BeaverMeat but when I try depress the button it doesn't want to move at all, I know you're supposed to push it in and pass it over the bolt handle. That's why I thought I would have to put the cocking knob and safety back on first? So that the safety can be in the middle positon and the rear of the bolt would unthread?
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Twist off the bolt shroud using the pliers method and start from scratch.
 
CanadianAR said:
Mauser bolts are simple to disassemble and reassemble if you know how. How many other bolts are totally tool less to strip apart and reassemble?
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Exactly. The M98 bolt is one of the most simple and user friendly bolts to take down and put together. With a little practice and knowledge it can be done quickly without any issues.
 
Consider making a suitable tool to pull the cocking piece back next time.

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desporterizer said:
I use nothing but my hands & a take down hole in the stock to tear down my mauser bolts. What are you guys doing with pliers?
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jbmauser said:
Exactly. The M98 bolt is one of the most simple and user friendly bolts to take down and put together. With a little practice and knowledge it can be done quickly without any issues.
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He had the bolt closed in the rifle without the safety or cocking peice. The firing pin was locking the bolt because the two lugs on the firing pin were being held in place inside the bolt's corrospoding recesses by the pressure of the spring. I repeat, he inserted the bolt without the safety or cocking peice.

fonestar said:
Okay so I shouldn't need to put the cocking knob and safety back on first? Even of the safety is not in the middle?
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How are you gong to pull back the firing pin with-out the cocking peice? Disassemble and start again.
 
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