Help! Looking for an odd ball scope mount.

Noel

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Can anyone here help me figure out what kind of side mount would fit this Savage Model 40? This is the old model, made from 1928-1940, not the more recent version.

The rifle is basically a stretched out 23D with a round receiver. I want to use a side mount that is more of a period mount and hopefully all steel. Something like a Griffon and Howe or.........I have no idea.
I have looked at Griffon & Howe, Lyman, Marbles, Echo, Fecker, Williams, and a few more not coming to mind right now.

Weaver makes one that is readily available but they are ugly as the day is long and are also Aluminum.......:puke:

If you can offer some other brands I could search or any where I can contact for them I'd sure appreciate your help.

Hopefully I will find something that can use the two side holes that are plugged here:
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The wear on the bluing would appear to allow the use of a well used mount so a used item does not bother me. I'd really like to use this gun for this fall so any and all help is greatly appreciated! :wave:

Thanks,
Noel
 
Noel, could be alot of mounts that used two holes.

Griffin and Howe but I doubt it, some B-square came with two mounting side screws.

Also check with Gunasaurus in the EE and find out the center to center on his Weaver side mount, it's a 3/4" mount but that would be period for that gun. A nice Weaver 330 would top that gun off nicely.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222763&highlight=weaver
 
Hi Noel. I believe you are looking for an all steel rimfire side mount like this. The only markings on this one is W4. It has been drilled twice by someone. It was bought for me by my brother who "just wanted to know about this rusty setup". Sorry I cannot provide better pics at this time. This one does mount on the right side of the receiver.
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Thats a Weaver as well. I've got one of those on my Savage 23B but it's a Weaver N4 which uses 4 mounting screws.

The numbers are the old heights of the mounts that Weaver used. N1's would be low rings, N2's next up, N4's, etc...etc...

Maybe the W's were a two hole mount.

Is that scope a Weaver as well? Maybe a G4, B4 or a J4?
 
MadDog said:
Thats a Weaver as well. I've got one of those on my Savage 23B but it's a Weaver N4 which uses 4 mounting screws.

The numbers are the old heights of the mounts that Weaver used. N1's would be low rings, N2's next up, N4's, etc...etc...

Maybe the W's were a two hole mount.

Is that scope a Weaver as well? Maybe a G4, B4 or a J4?
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You are right Maddog. I scraped some of the rust and it says N4 not W4 as stated. Like I posted I don't know this mount/scopes history. The 4 holes have been redrilled (egg shaped) probably by hand. As for the scope the only ID is 4X - 60 - 1200. I have never took it off the mount so I don't know if a name is hiding under the rings.
 
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Lazy Ike said:
I spare Supercub the stamp and drop off a couple of hose clamps tomorrow Noel.
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Yeah okay. I wonder how they will take the bluing.....:redface:

Joe, I will keep looking at the B-Square for vintage mounts.

I have check them, Burris, Redfield, Leupold, EAW, WGP....Millet.
Patience is a virtue I know having taken nine months to finally locate one of these rifles, I never really planned on scoping it to begin with, but then I didn't think I'd find one D&T'd either.

If I can find a simple ring set like M77 posted there I am off to the races.
A little Lathey-lathe to make a base and it is ready to go so long as I get it centered over the bore.

I sold that 330 Weaver I had, was thinking more along the lines of either a KV 2.5-5 or a Lyman Alaskan orthe Texan sort of design. My 330 was way too dark.

Thanks guys!
Noel
 
Joe, went looking in the old magazines from Leif's stuff last night and found an envelope sent to him from Savage, dated 1937 so I am guessing he still had the Super Sporter even then. No contents tho........
 
My first 30-06 was a Savage that looked a lot like this one. It had a clip, I think four shot. I can't remember the model number, does anyone know what it was? It didn't have any drilled holes for scope, but I had it drilled on top and mounted a Weaver 330.
 
Sounds like the same gun Noel has in the pic, a Savage 40. If it had checkering it was a model 45. They made alot more of them in 30-06 and 30-30 than they did the 250 and 300 Savs.
 
MadDog said:
Hey, don't use that envelope to start a fire, I love old vintage Savage stuff like that.

A Lyman Alaskan is a 7/8's scope, not a 3/4".
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Yup.:cool:

The envelope is going nowhere, don't worry. With it beings my Uncle's makes it all the more cool, right with his 1937 Hunting License.:)

I found the KV weaver selling in one of his hunting mags in 1951. One just sold on the dreaded -bay for only $40. Having said that, the German scope already on it may be hard to beat. Aside from the anodized finish....

H4831, there are quite a few of these guns around in 30-06. That and 30-30 are most prevelant in case you are needing to feed a nostalgia kick.

How did yours shoot?
 
Just heard back from the only model 40 collector that I know of and he said the G&H mount was about the only solid solution for this application. Trouble is they were never made specific to the model 40, the 54 Winchester mounts had to be used which left the scope offset from the center of the bore.

It is Weaver side mount or bust....time to get out the file and hacksaw and go crazy.
 
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