help me buy a shot gun

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I am taking the hunting course this weekend and would like to get into the sport, along with trap and skeet shooting.
But, I really do not know too much about shot guns.
this is what I know that I do want:

1) it is for trap and skeet
2) for hunting mostly small little animals that I can blow to pieces with my bad-ass shotty (seriously though, for whatever hunting can be done with a shot gun - and not a rifle)
3) had to be a pump - mainly just because they sound some much cooler when you rack them!
4)want to keep it around / under $500 - will buy used.

hopefully then good memebers here can point me in the right direction
 
Your best bets are Mossberg 590 and Remington 870s. Go to a store and handle both to see what you like. I don't like Browning BPS's because of the single action bars, it feels cheap and twists an awful lot.

Personally I'm an 870 guy, but you can't go wrong with either. For the price you specified, you can probably get a used wingmaster or easily a new express mag/supermag.

As hunting is your interest, steel shot may be necessary so the super mag may not be a bad bet.
 
You can buy a new or used version of a typical pumpgun, or just about any modern manufacturer and feel sure you're getting a decent, reliable gun. Remington, Winchester, Mossberg, Browning, etc. What you should consider most importantly are removable choke tubes so that you can adjust the pattern to the type of shooting; 12 gauge for versatility; 3" chamber will cover 99% of your shooting needs, so don't bother with the 3-1/2" supermag. Make sure you handle each gun for feel, balance, and ergonomics to YOU.
 
Location of the safety on the shotgun can be important as well.

Example, my friends Mossberg 500 Mariner, his safety is on TOP of the receiver.

I HATE that location for it, as where most other guns have it on the trigger guard.
 
Don't forget about the Winchester 1300. Dual action bars, aluminum reciever, fastest action pump shotgun made.

Not the mall ninjas cup of tea, but sells like gangbusters, and very affordable. They have both hunting models with nice walnut furniture, and a defender model. I've got the defender, and it's lots of fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVoehY1ssyM
 
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Same thing, it's just that some make 'em with only single bars. Go with what feels/handles good to you, because there is gonna' be some kick and stock fit is important. Go for 3 1/2" only if you plan on doing alot of Goose hunting. Most new guns will have screw in choke tubes and be steel shot compatible, so just check for that. Buy the extra chokes if it doesn't come with them, based on your interest, I'd get skeet or imp. cyl.,modified, and full chokes, and check on their steel shot compatibility.Can't go wrong..870. Mossy, browning, Benelli Nova if you can get around the plastic receiver.IMHO
 
You mention trap and skeet. Why not drop by one of you local clubs and watch a few rounds. Sure there will be some that have fancy target guns but most places have quite a few who just like shooting targets with their hunting guns. I have seen all the ones mentioned on this thread. Most of those guys have no problem letting others try their guns. If that doesn't work let your wallet be your guide and buy any one mentioned on this thread.
 
great info guys, thank you.

one other question, what about length of barrel? do the above firearms mentioned all come with multiple barrels? how exactly does that work. different length barrel depending on what you hunt?
so what im getting is any shot gun will do - want to have multiple chokes

also, can you dress up most shot guns. not sure what I am thinking of at this time..
can you change the stocks, do people put scopes on shot guns?
 
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The length of the barrel affects the balance and the swing of the shotgun. A short barrel is easier to haul through the bush but is more "whippy" that a long barrel.

Personally I think the 28" is the best all-rounder for a pump/semi action 12 ga gun. Is there any way you can try a few guns out?
 
I am taking the hunting course this weekend and would like to get into the sport, along with trap and skeet shooting.
But, I really do not know too much about shot guns.
this is what I know that I do want:
1) it is for trap and skeet
2) for hunting mostly small little animals that I can blow to pieces with my bad-ass shotty (seriously though, for whatever hunting can be done with a shot gun - and not a rifle)
3) had to be a pump - mainly just because they sound some much cooler when you rack them!
4)want to keep it around / under $500 - will buy used.
hopefully then good memebers here can point me in the right direction

1) As others have suggested, removable choke tubes are the way to go to cover the range of activities that you will be doing with your gun.

2)You can pretty much hunt anything in NA with a shotgun, not always the best choice, but it is possible. If you buy a gun with a smoothbore barrel with choketubes and a rifled barrel (you don't actually need the rifled barrel, but it nearly doubles the effective range of slugs).

Assuming your from Ontario you might need to hunt deer with a shotgun, you may want to consider getting a rifled barrel for your gun, the 870 and the Mossbergs have the most economical rifled barrels, some with cantilevered scope mounts.

3) Remington 870, Mossberg 500, 535, 590, Browning BPS, Benelli Nova, Winchester 1300 (and a few others that I have missed) are some good choices. I personally lean towards the 870 just because it is the gun that I have the most experience with and haven't had a single problem with them (I currently own 3 of them).


great info guys, thank you.
one other question, what about length of barrel? do the above firearms mentioned all come with multiple barrels? how exactly does that work. different length barrel depending on what you hunt?
so what im getting is any shot gun will do - want to have multiple chokes
also, can you dress up most shot guns. not sure what I am thinking of at this time..
can you change the stocks, do people put scopes on shot guns?


Keep in mind when you look at barrel lengths to also look at overall length. For example, a Benelli Nova with a 26" barrel is the same length as an 870 with a 28" barrel.

I personally prefer a 26" barrel on the 870, but see what feels right for you.

If you can afford to buy the multi-barrel sets it will save you money in the long run, if you decide that you will need more than one barrel.

The barrels are changed by unscrewing the end of the magazine tube, sliding off the barrel and replacing it with the other barrel.

3 options for mounting scopes, cantilever barrel (scope mounts to a bracket that is attached to the barrel), drill and tap receiver (drill holes in the receiver, thread them and put a scope rail on it) and a saddle mount (a bracket that bolts on to the receiver that you then mount your scope to). Scopes on shotguns are typically used for deer hunting and turkey hunting.

If you want to you can change the stock on most pump shotguns, with the Benelli Nova being the exception, it is one piece (not sure about the super nova). Some companies make stock that reduce the amount of recoil that you feel, other make folding stock, if your barrel is long enough you can add a pistol grip to replace your stock, lots of options (mostly for the 870 and the mossbergs).

If you want to customize your shotgun you can add lots to them, the 870 in particular has a host of aftermarket accessories, ESPECIALLY if you want to follow the recent trends and make it tactigay.

General guidelines for barrel length selection.
ducks/geese: 26-30” barrel.

Grouse, pheasant: 22-26” barrel.

Deer/Big game: rifled barrel, any commercially available length will do the trick, seriously consider a cantilevered barrel

Turkey: 20-24” with a tight choke threaded in

This isn't to say that a Turkey can't be shot with a 30” barrel, a goose can't be shot with a 20” barrel or that you have to have a rifled barrel to shoot a deer (LOTS of deer have been shot with smoothbores). There isn't much that couldn't be done with a 26” Rem-choke barrelled Remington 870, a saddle mount and a quality low magnification scope (or a red dot).
 
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